Title: Paint/Sheild Upgrade Void!
JohnSpartan117_Reborn - May 26, 2008 07:46 PM (GMT)
Everything that has to do with this is void. If you want a refund post in the shop request forum, and I will IMMEDIATELY refund you of your money.
Revan - May 27, 2008 12:25 AM (GMT)
John... The GMs whom YOU put in charge of GMing, and myself, decided it was a good idea, and it was approved... You coming in here and voiding it for no good reason is bullS***, and you know it.
Reklar - May 27, 2008 12:43 AM (GMT)
Sigh.....Void An Idea Thats Good Without A Legitiment Reason Again, Im Already Tired Of You Voiding Ideas Without Giving Reasoning, Your Reasoning Has Always Consisted Of "I Dont Like It" Or "No", And For The Love Of F***ing God Quit Saying No To Every Idea That Comes Up Just Because It Could F*** You Over In The RPG, If Someone Gives A Good Idea And It Poses A Threat To The UNSC You Immediately Deny It (By YOURSELF) And Dont Give Any Reasoning Behind It, Whats The F***ing Point Of Having GMs If Your Just Going To Say No To Practically Everything They Come Up With Or Say, You Tried Yourself To Say Sentinel Didnt Get Any Tech From Earth, YOU, Your UNSC Therefore You Have No Say, The GMs Are GMs And They Determine How The RPG Battles And Outcomes Play Out......If Your Going To Make Decisions On Your Own Then Why Do We Even Have GMs, This Idea Is Good, Could Use A Tiny Bit Of Tweaking But No Idea Is Perfect At The Start When Its Made, Every Idea Has Its Flaws And Improvements, Now God Damnit, Provide Me With Some Logical Reasoning As To Why You Dislike This Invention Or For The Love Of God Im Putting It Back Into The RPG, I Could Give 2 S***s If Your The Head Admin Or Not, Acting Like This And Voiding Something Thats Actually Intelligent Is Down Right Retarded
There.....God Damnit.....
Haru - May 27, 2008 12:56 AM (GMT)
I partially agree.
John, you should at least prove your points or compromise instead of giving a solid negatory, abusing your power.
Also, there are some admittable flaws to the idea, but they could easily be fixed with some focus and thought.
Revan - May 27, 2008 01:59 AM (GMT)
And through testing in the RPG, we can find the flaws.
johndon - May 27, 2008 02:54 AM (GMT)
I dont like it...IMO its too good, and could make some Issue's in the game.
Reklar - May 27, 2008 02:58 AM (GMT)
SEE! At Least Johndon Gives A Reason WHY He Doesnt Like It (Although This Can Be Countered By Someone Firing Their Weapon Randomly In Space Given The Right Reasoning)
Like Say The Ship Arrives, The Rupture Would Give It Away At First And If You Choose To You Can Blindly Fire Towards The Rupture And Hope To Hit the Ship (If You Do Id Assume The Paint/Shield Would Go Down And It Would Become Visible)
ZUKA ZAMAMEE - May 27, 2008 03:17 AM (GMT)
check the invention for it. the ability to jam has changed rather than gone away. it can be a handicap or an advantage
johndon - May 27, 2008 03:21 AM (GMT)
Also i am tired of everything the UNSC gets, the URF gets too. Its un-canon to have all this new high tech like the UNSC. I think the price should be jacked up, or it should be limited to the UNSC.
JohnSpartan117_Reborn - May 27, 2008 03:58 AM (GMT)
I could give a good reason, and I have plenty, but IM not obligated to at all.
ZUKA ZAMAMEE - May 27, 2008 03:59 AM (GMT)
but it would help in convincing the people of I-07 so they can stop complaining though john. im sure you don't want enemies.
Reklar - May 27, 2008 08:47 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (JohnSpartan117_Reborn @ May 26 2008, 10:58 PM) |
| I could give a good reason, and I have plenty, but IM not obligated to at all. |
Ok, Your Not "Obligated" But I Expect An Explanation, Your Acting Like A Spoiled Child Who Gets Something They Dont Want, Its Very Simple, Just Explain And Thats It, Why Is That So F***ing Hard?
Leo_Reborn - May 27, 2008 12:06 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (johndon @ May 26 2008, 07:21 PM) |
| Also i am tired of everything the UNSC gets, the URF gets too. Its un-canon to have all this new high tech like the UNSC. I think the price should be jacked up, or it should be limited to the UNSC. |
Stealth Tech has been made since the 2000's. I'm pretty sure painting it with a complex stealth compoud isn't that "High Tech". Plus its for Balancing.
Revan - May 27, 2008 03:43 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (JohnSpartan117_Reborn @ May 26 2008, 09:58 PM) |
| I could give a good reason, and I have plenty, but IM not obligated to at all. |
Well you're very right... But until you do, we're going to continue to use this upgrade, because you can void it all you'd like... but I'M not obligated to listen to you at all.
johndon - May 27, 2008 10:29 PM (GMT)
AND i think that olny humans should have it, Becuase covies dont change at all! And plus, they think thier so strong they dont need that kind of stuff.
Haru - May 27, 2008 10:34 PM (GMT)
Not Heretics. >_>
And the real Covenant is gone. So yeah.
But personally, if URF always gets the old outdated crap, they should not get this upgrade.
ZUKA ZAMAMEE - May 28, 2008 12:50 AM (GMT)
this is old tech. it was created many years ago in our time
originbbtk - May 28, 2008 01:04 AM (GMT)
I'm not on the rpg for the last couple weeks and something stupid like sonar/radar signal repelling paint/shield comes out. I mean really people, is it your compelling urge to win forcing your brain to think of such retarded upgrades? Zuka, I have read your invention topic. You say a MAC round would peel of a part of the ship and it would be exposed. If the paint would be taken off so easily, it should have already been ripped off the body the moment it exits/enters slipspace. Also, cmon paint? You cant be more creative than paint?
Also, I think the whole idea of an AI being some kind of all powerful hacker for all uses is just wrong. Make it so it can just hack to get tech and info, listen to encrypted messages, and pilot ships. No jamming communications or blocking radars.
RE Covenant shielding: Covenant warships are strong on their own account without any upgrades. You don't need to make it an invisible-to-radar menace.
Reklar - May 28, 2008 01:29 AM (GMT)
It Doesnt Matter Whether Or Not The Paint Would Peel Off In Slipspace And The Upgrades Need Balances And Having It Be Useless After Fired Upon Would Make It More Balanced Than A Completely Invisible Ship, And I Believe The Reason For the Shielding Is Because If One Gets An Invisibility To Radar, The Other Should As Well
Like So, If The GMs/Staff Agree On An Invention That They Came Up With (If They Wernt In The RPG) Then To Balance It Out There Would Be A Need For Similar Upgrades For The Other Factions
Giving UNSC This And Not The URF Would Be Giving The UNSC An Advantage
Giving Heretic This And Not The Separatists Would Be Giving The Heretics An Advantage
Haru - May 28, 2008 01:34 AM (GMT)
Origin brings up a good point.
Why don't we just remove hacking overall?
All it does is make things more confusing and annoying. Hacking S*** isn't even fun, and takes no skill.
Its Level vs. Cash, pretty much.
I say we should just take out AI ablities to jam radar, as well as this idea.
Communications stuff still works, but Radar is just too far. Its not something that would be done often at all. It is inconventional, to say the least.
johndon - May 28, 2008 02:00 AM (GMT)
I dont Jam radar, so its no problem for me, I just stop my signal from getting to any of the enemies.
Haru - May 28, 2008 02:02 AM (GMT)
originbbtk - May 28, 2008 02:05 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Reklar @ May 27 2008, 06:29 PM) |
It Doesnt Matter Whether Or Not The Paint Would Peel Off In Slipspace And The Upgrades Need Balances And Having It Be Useless After Fired Upon Would Make It More Balanced Than A Completely Invisible Ship, And I Believe The Reason For the Shielding Is Because If One Gets An Invisibility To Radar, The Other Should As Well
Like So, If The GMs/Staff Agree On An Invention That They Came Up With (If They Wernt In The RPG) Then To Balance It Out There Would Be A Need For Similar Upgrades For The Other Factions
Giving UNSC This And Not The URF Would Be Giving The UNSC An Advantage Giving Heretic This And Not The Separatists Would Be Giving The Heretics An Advantage |
Yeah and as a STAFF MEMBER, I say we take out AI jamming and paint buying altogether. This makes life simpler.
johndon - May 28, 2008 02:06 AM (GMT)
You guys cant take something out just becuase people are getting PWNed. Seriously, This version is so up-tight and all "EVERYTHING MUST BE PERFECT" It takes alot of the fun out of things. I liked it when we could do stupid crap and then the other person would get you back and blah blah.
I07 is losing its fun for me.
Haru - May 28, 2008 02:09 AM (GMT)
Who's getting pwned?
The only people who got pwned are UNSC and Covenant. So I dunno what you are talking about.
I just think its annoying as F***, being able to jam EVERYTHING. All the little AI wars aren't very fun.
originbbtk - May 28, 2008 02:12 AM (GMT)
Which is why I want that out. Make it simple, you see ships, you attack, they attack, then you run like a motherF***er.
ZUKA ZAMAMEE - May 28, 2008 02:15 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (johndon @ May 27 2008, 06:00 PM) |
| I dont Jam radar, so its no problem for me, I just stop my signal from getting to any of the enemies. |
this happening is no longer possible since there is no actual way to do this. without something ON the ships exterior to take it away
johndon - May 28, 2008 02:18 AM (GMT)
They arent very fun when you being hacked up the butt 10 times over. And the UNSC is not getting PWNed, we are being smacked. If we were gtting PWNed we would have lost over half our planets by now...And plus we arent the ones making a cease fire Mr. Haru.
ZUKA ZAMAMEE - May 28, 2008 02:20 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (originbbtk @ May 27 2008, 06:05 PM) |
| QUOTE (Reklar @ May 27 2008, 06:29 PM) | It Doesnt Matter Whether Or Not The Paint Would Peel Off In Slipspace And The Upgrades Need Balances And Having It Be Useless After Fired Upon Would Make It More Balanced Than A Completely Invisible Ship, And I Believe The Reason For the Shielding Is Because If One Gets An Invisibility To Radar, The Other Should As Well
Like So, If The GMs/Staff Agree On An Invention That They Came Up With (If They Wernt In The RPG) Then To Balance It Out There Would Be A Need For Similar Upgrades For The Other Factions
Giving UNSC This And Not The URF Would Be Giving The UNSC An Advantage Giving Heretic This And Not The Separatists Would Be Giving The Heretics An Advantage |
Yeah and as a STAFF MEMBER, I say we take out AI jamming and paint buying altogether. This makes life simpler.
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if i could get reklar on the old msn. we could talk about it. but i do agree. we just need to make a gm decision about it since we are really the only ones that can actually affect the rpg/rts in that way
Reklar - May 28, 2008 03:34 AM (GMT)
Well If You Would Be ON Msn When Im On -_-....
| QUOTE (originbbtk) |
| Yeah and as a STAFF MEMBER |
Chill? I Was Just Stating A Hypothetical Situation