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shaairah - April 24, 2007 11:05 PM (GMT)
You're welcome to visit my website of 100% COO Salukis from Israel, Bahrain, Qatar and Syria, as well as their offspring :)

Saluki - April 26, 2007 08:25 AM (GMT)
Qashani Saluqi's

Great site, :bounce: I love how you have done the lettering in an arabic way.

I really enjoyed reading the articles, makes me very envious of your travels but at the same time saddening reading how the goverments have ban the hunting over there, we now have the same situtation here in the uk now :angry: .

We have to be sneaky when hunting now :hide:




shaairah - April 27, 2007 06:56 PM (GMT)
Thanks - later there will be more updates including several articles, one of them a looooong one about our trip to Syria, it will be accompanied by tons of pictures.

The hunting problem really is a shame - it makes preservation in a real sense pretty impossible. Here's hoping hunting bans will be lifted! :Good: Until then :ph43r: ;)

Saluki - May 2, 2007 05:30 AM (GMT)
Sounds great, I'll be looking forward to your future articles.

Keep us posted. :clapping:

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Lennard - May 2, 2007 08:34 AM (GMT)
I wonder Shaairah...would it be feasible for the Finnish to go to Russia with their hounds?

Now that I am wondering about Scandinavia again...is there an explanation for sighthound work being illegal? Like in France and Germany they banned it with their social revolutions in the 18/19 century...does for instance Finland have a similar history? Or why ban something when it is absent or marginal?

regards,
L.

shaairah - May 3, 2007 10:03 AM (GMT)
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I wonder Shaairah...would it be feasible for the Finnish to go to Russia with their hounds?


***It would if you have the money - it isn't cheap and unfortunately I don't have that kind of money - I don't have any kind of money actually ;)

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Now that I am wondering about Scandinavia again...is there an explanation for sighthound work being illegal? Like in France and Germany they banned it with their social revolutions in the 18/19 century...does for instance Finland have a similar history? Or why ban something when it is absent or marginal?


***I don't know the history of it, but today it is banned for the most ridiculous reason - it's an animal wellfare law - supposedly hunting with sighthounds is unduly stressful and cruel towards the prey :lol1: In reality of course it most closely resembles how natural predators hunt, the kill is very swift and clean, and it's a damn sight more humane than trapping, poisoning or shooting, where the prey often doesn't die instantly. Ridiculous, but law.

Saluki - May 3, 2007 11:38 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (shaairah @ May 3 2007, 10:03 AM)
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I wonder Shaairah...would it be feasible for the Finnish to go to Russia with their hounds?


***It would if you have the money - it isn't cheap and unfortunately I don't have that kind of money - I don't have any kind of money actually ;)

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Now that I am wondering about Scandinavia again...is there an explanation for sighthound work being illegal? Like in France and Germany they banned it with their social revolutions in the 18/19 century...does for instance Finland have a similar history? Or why ban something when it is absent or marginal?


***I don't know the history of it, but today it is banned for the most ridiculous reason - it's an animal wellfare law - supposedly hunting with sighthounds is unduly stressful and cruel towards the prey :lol1: In reality of course it most closely resembles how natural predators hunt, the kill is very swift and clean, and it's a damn sight more humane than trapping, poisoning or shooting, where the prey often doesn't die instantly. Ridiculous, but law.

Same here in the uk, supposedly Animal Welfare, which is the biggest joke ever but the joke gets even better, you can however use dogs to catch game once it is WOUNDED by a gun :chair: Where is the logic in that hunting is ban due to being inhumane, yet you can go out with a gun and wound as much game as you like then use the inhumane banned hunting with dog to then dispatch the wounded game.

shaairah - May 3, 2007 01:39 PM (GMT)
^Here too. You are also allowed to use foxhounds etc. to chase the prey for kilometers on end here, as long as the actual kill is made with a gun...bureaucrats... :hunter: :chair:

Lennard - May 3, 2007 05:48 PM (GMT)
Do you know where the legislation comes from?

Was it banned because there was a sighthound culture (did "etnic" Finnish have sighthounds?) or was the legislation copied from another country without any "native" hunting being affected?

L.


shaairah - May 3, 2007 07:09 PM (GMT)
Lennard: I don't know the history of the law or how old it is. There are no Finnish national sighthounds, but of course we were under Swedish and Russian rule for a long time, Russia of course having several sighthounds.

Hunting with scenthounds, native elkhounds or bearhounds and birdhounds such as the Finnish Spitz, and Dachshunds and Terriers, is still permissible. I think if one had the liscence and a permit to carry a weapon for hunting, then one could hunt with a sighthound if it was taught to hunt lika a scenthound, without killing it's prey. In fact I know one Finnish Afghan Hound that hunts this way, but the sighthound being so fast it's dangerous and not very effective due to the dense forest terrain that is not conducive to hunting by sight.

So specifically the law states that a dog may only track or stop its prey, or in the case of Dachshunds and Terriers flush it from its den, but not kill it. Also, acording to the wellfare law, sighthounds are too big to be allowed to hunt deer (I believe the dog has to be under 28 cm at the withers for that), and also too fast. The twisted logic being that the prey has to run faster when chased by a sighthound rather than a scenthound, and this is, according to the wellfare law, "excessively stressful" for the prey... :hehe: And again no dog is allowed to kill the prey, more faulty logic stating that it is a more painful death than being shot...

DeviodOvTalent - May 4, 2007 05:44 PM (GMT)
I suppose I am lucky; rabbits and hares here are considered pest animals and can be hunted any time, there is no season, and hunting with dogs isn't prohibited. I'm not sure about deer, but the deer are big (mule deer) and I wouldn't let the dogs go after one anyways.

Silliness.




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