Title: New School vs Old School Room?
kalajessta - January 21, 2006 08:01 PM (GMT)
I've had this idea for a while now, but what if we had a New School anime room vs Old school anime room(s)? I know my self I personally only really watch new school anime these days. But I know a ton of others that watches Old school. It would be interesting to see how many people show up to each showing of New or Old.
Kaisermikeb - January 22, 2006 12:17 AM (GMT)
This is actually a fairly useful post as we don't have a clear idea yet on how to organize the three remaining video roooms, other than that one should stay kid safe.
How old do you consider old-school to be? Are you talking Ashita no Joe and DevilMan, or are you talking Nadia and Sailor Moon, or do you consider Eva and Trigun to be old-school?
cacepi - January 22, 2006 02:44 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Kaisermikeb @ Jan 21 2006, 07:17 PM) |
| How old do you consider old-school to be? Are you talking Ashita no Joe and DevilMan, or are you talking Nadia and Sailor Moon, or do you consider Eva and Trigun to be old-school? |
If it's older than me it's Old School, so Ashita no Joe doesn't count!
Personally, as much a fan as I am for the "Old School" anime, I'm not crazy about the idea. It's been done at cons before, and at every one the audience was pretty polarized, to say nothing of the "Old School" room being pretty empty most of the time.
There's the bad anime room, the "serious" anime room (they don't run the entire con, do they?) the documentary room, the hentai room... does there need to be more categorization?
Not that I'm saying we shouldn't show any older anime -- I'd personally love us to show some Gatchaman or Ace wo Nerae! at some point during the weekend -- just that dedicating a whole room to it might not be the best idea. Perhaps for late night showing.
kalajessta - January 22, 2006 04:00 AM (GMT)
I personally consider old school from anything that's been made past 1999. Anything new above 2000 and up. I know new school doesn't have much of years on it splitting it up that way, but that's when the animation began to truely age into what we have today. Inu Yasha is new school, but drawn old school styling. It depends when it was made and released in what years in my opinions. I know some people differ saying that anything from 1990s and up is New.
Kaisermikeb - January 22, 2006 03:47 PM (GMT)
I think that most people probably think of anything new as being anything that came out after they became active in anime, and anything old as being anything from before that point.
I think a lot of us on staff would love to expose many of the newer fans to some of the older shows, especially since a lot of us feel that most of the current trends in anime are not only less artistic and less intelligent, but also that they are poisoning anime and fandom alike and will hurt fandom as a whole and make anime a less respected artform.
At the same time, a lot of the kids today wouldn't take the time to check out the old-school room, and even if they did would probably be turned off by the non-super-cute styles or character designs. In highschool after I showed gundam at our anime club a lot of people complained that it was too ugly and they didn't want to watch anymore, yet no one had a problem with showing a sailor moon movie.
One idea Chris and I had was that, rather than having an oldschool and newschool room, that we designate one rooms as the "Staff Picks" room, where we show what our favorites, and the shows that we think are most important. The other two rooms would still have good stuff too of course, but would also be a lot more typical of what you would expect to see at a con.
This way we could show Neighborhood story, Aim for the Ace, and Captain Harlock and MAYBE more people might even check them out because the top brass will back up each and every title in that room!
Also, as a matter of clarification, we don't have a serious works room or a hentai room. We will of course show serious works, and we have blocks of hentai and yaoi scheduled later at night, but we don't have entire rooms dedicated to any of these... yet.
kalajessta - January 22, 2006 05:51 PM (GMT)
The only problem I'm seeing with the "staff pick" room is it being bias to certain type of anime. At least with the old vs new, it wouldn't. It would just have either old anime or new anime in the room. From other cons in the past, I've noticed alot of the rooms are bias for picking what anime they are. Either I've seen 90% of them or haven't heard of any of them or I have no interest in seeing them. If you have a new school room, I would so be in it. I know I've been lacking on watching anime these past two years, but I want to find more stuff that I like as well. I'm not a huge fan on old school, but I'm sure there's people the same way that want to watch old school anime.
Kaisermikeb - January 22, 2006 06:25 PM (GMT)
Out of curiosity, what biases would a staff-pick room have?
On the note of biases, one other problem I have with an old-school vs new-school room is that a lot of people (and apparently yourself) seem to think that these represent almost a type of animation itself, like anime today is different from anime 10 years ago. The same genres still exist. The same types of shows are still being made. The only differences that time presents are that of style, production, and how they do their gag humor.
You said you would be in the new-school room a lot if we had one. Just wondering, what makes you prefer new stuff over old stuff?
kalajessta - January 22, 2006 06:44 PM (GMT)
Well, I guess I should of clearified my self more to the bias thing. I was thinking after I posted that, I just was thinking that it would be easier to categorize the rooms by using the new vs old school method. Also, I was thinking then as well, you guys can have your "staff picks" within those rooms, thus giving people a chance to choose what style of room they want to sit in and watch what anime.
I know my self, and my friends prefer new school anime because of the animation styles, the plots, characters, etc. I know I am very picky with animation styles and new school seems to fit alot of the styles I like.
For examples, I don't like Captain Harlock because the animation style, even though of how old it is. Most old school anime I can't stand either because it doesn't interest me, bad animation, or just bad plot/story lines. I grew up on old school anime, but now when I watch it, I can't even stand it now.