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Title: Video game to anime cosplay
Description: What's ok and what's not ok?


RedDelilah - February 18, 2008 03:15 PM (GMT)
I've been wondering this for a while. Since it seems as though Animepunch is an anime only cosplay convention what about something like Devil May Cry? I know they've got the first four episodes out so would something like that be ok to do?

Kitty4777 - February 18, 2008 07:15 PM (GMT)
I think in general, if you know the character from the video game instead of from the anime, you may want to pick a different character.

amyloveyou87 - February 18, 2008 09:14 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Kitty4777 @ Feb 18 2008, 07:15 PM)
I think in general, if you know the character from the video game instead of from the anime, you may want to pick a different character.

yep

Splenda - February 19, 2008 03:22 AM (GMT)
In my experience, as long as there is an anime (and the character is in that anime), even if it's not finished, it's ok to do. Last year my friends and I did Darkstalkers, which is primarily a fighting game, but also a very bad anime! I know I also asked Mike last year if something like Tales of Symphonia was alright, as only the first OVA was out. Mike said that it was fine. On that note, however, this year they may have made the rules stricter.

On a semi-related note, Mike and Codi and Cori, are video game references allowed in skits? The characters will all be from anime, but there may be some jokes relating to popular games (though that's not the central theme of the skit).

Thanks!

KaiserMikeB - February 19, 2008 04:09 AM (GMT)
As there is much confusion about this on the forums, and a bit of internal debate with the staff, I will be updating the cosplay section of the website making a formal, sticked post here on the forums in the next few days.


In the meantime: Remember that we are an anime convention. For some shows there are grey areas. Certainly Cannon, Clannad, and Gungrave are better known as anime in this country than video games. Likewise, Disgea, Devil May Cry, and Viewtiful Joe are better known as games here. If there is an anime based on a game, it's certainly a real anime, and certainly something we support at this convention.
That being said, it's up to you to cosplay for the right reasons. If you're doing DMC because of the game, maybe you should reconsider. If you're doing it because the anime is freaking sweet, and you use the anime character designs, that is encouraged and acceptible.


The only big exception is FF7 Last Order, which could never work as a stand-alone series, and may as well be viewed as an extra cut-scene for the game.

Ookami Yokai - February 19, 2008 05:36 PM (GMT)
Here-here! I bought that DVD over the weekend.

RedDelilah - February 28, 2008 12:05 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (KaiserMikeB @ Feb 19 2008, 04:09 AM)
As there is much confusion about this on the forums, and a bit of internal debate with the staff, I will be updating the cosplay section of the website making a formal, sticked post here on the forums in the next few days.


In the meantime: Remember that we are an anime convention. For some shows there are grey areas. Certainly Cannon, Clannad, and Gungrave are better known as anime in this country than video games. Likewise, Disgea, Devil May Cry, and Viewtiful Joe are better known as games here. If there is an anime based on a game, it's certainly a real anime, and certainly something we support at this convention.
That being said, it's up to you to cosplay for the right reasons. If you're doing DMC because of the game, maybe you should reconsider. If you're doing it because the anime is freaking sweet, and you use the anime character designs, that is encouraged and acceptible.


The only big exception is FF7 Last Order, which could never work as a stand-alone series, and may as well be viewed as an extra cut-scene for the game.

Thank you for the clarification. I wasn't planning on doing a DMC cosplay this year but had thought about it for maybe later on down the road.

KaiserMikeB - February 28, 2008 09:03 PM (GMT)
It should be noted that Run DMC is also not affiliated with anime.

RedDelilah - February 28, 2008 09:37 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (KaiserMikeB @ Feb 28 2008, 09:03 PM)
It should be noted that Run DMC is also not affiliated with anime.

Wow call me retarded but "Run"? What the heck is that?

bluenigma - February 28, 2008 09:44 PM (GMT)
Wikipedia - do you use it?

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Codi - February 28, 2008 10:00 PM (GMT)
Going to have to agree with 'nigma, using a little google could've spared you that public, "I feel dumb" post. B)

Another anime/game would be Ragnarok. As long as it's the designs from the anime, it's cool.

Ookami Yokai - February 29, 2008 02:32 AM (GMT)
We should create a list of "OK" video game to anime characters. Though I'm pretty sure Devil May Cry, Ragnarok, and .HACK// are the only ones on the list. :D

sesshouga - February 29, 2008 02:52 AM (GMT)
*cough*Pokemon*cough*

Ookami Yokai - February 29, 2008 03:24 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (sesshouga @ Feb 29 2008, 02:52 AM)
*cough*Pokemon*cough*

Of course that's a given!

Jnkolm - February 29, 2008 04:43 AM (GMT)
I would normally say Disgaea here as I am a long-loved fan of it, and it's got isself a full season and doesn't require any knowledge of the game. But the characters are all based entirely from the game and look no different. I guess if you've only seen the anime for some things (legitimate animes) then just make your own call ever'body XD

People could probably do something from the Tales series..meaning Tales of Eternia (and I think there's at least one other) but Eternia I don't know much about, I hadn't played any of the Tales games back then but I don't think there's a game about it.
Or Arc the Lad, but that's sketchy ground again like Disgaea (although I did see the Arc the Lad anime before I played any of the games)

I would probably give respec' knuckles to someone who did those, as they are kinda oldish and not-so-well-known...I think

Mystofflyn - March 1, 2008 08:44 AM (GMT)
I can't make my own thread for some odd reason, so I need to post this here in the closest related thread.

What about Manga cosplay?

My husband wants to cosplay as a character from the manga Hibiki's Magic, but it's so new that it doesn't have an anime yet. Is this alright? Or since it's not animated it doesn't count? I thought it might be ok because most animes are mangas before they are animated.

Thanks much!!

amyloveyou87 - March 1, 2008 03:21 PM (GMT)
As stated on Jeopardy last night, Manga and Anime are the same thing.

Centaura - March 1, 2008 03:45 PM (GMT)
Last time I suggested manga cosplay I got reprimanded. Anime =/= manga here, unless that has changed recently.

And you can't start new threads until you've made a first post, which you've done now.

amyloveyou87 - March 1, 2008 03:56 PM (GMT)
I don't think it has changed.

Ookami Yokai - March 1, 2008 10:41 PM (GMT)
I was very disappointed with the Disgaea anime.

Ookami Yokai - March 1, 2008 10:42 PM (GMT)
If it was an manga which was made into an anime, then it's alright. However, if it has not yet been made into an anime then it's a no go.

sniper - March 2, 2008 02:11 AM (GMT)
That's unfortunate, since they're closely related and there are some great mangas that don't have a matching anime. One good example would be Fairy Tail, which has some great characters.

Ookami Yokai - March 2, 2008 03:28 AM (GMT)
I could be wrong, it's all up to Mike really. He should chime in within the next 5 posts, or I could be wrong about that too.

LLMorphine - March 2, 2008 03:38 AM (GMT)
another example would be s-cry-ed where it has the same main characters, but some of the smaller characters are ignored in the anime . . . like Akira Mijyou who was my favorite cuz her alter was using music as a weapon. Because of that they end up Changing Mimori's entrance and basic role from being a nurse to being some research assistant or whatever.

KaiserMikeB - March 2, 2008 06:31 AM (GMT)
Adriane, we should hook you up with some Hameln ^_^

Manga=/= anime. Of course, we can't deny the connections between the two, and speak on manga as well as anime at the convention, but to fans who watch stuff, cosplaying as a manga character from a series that has only been out for a few months isn't going to do much for them.

Mystofflyn - March 3, 2008 03:23 AM (GMT)
Thank you much.

RedDelilah - March 5, 2008 12:14 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Codi @ Feb 28 2008, 10:00 PM)
Going to have to agree with 'nigma, using a little google could've spared you that public, "I feel dumb" post. B)

Another anime/game would be Ragnarok. As long as it's the designs from the anime, it's cool.

This is true, but for conversations sake I asked anyway. I know you guys feel the need to be harsh with people about the whole anime vs. video game cosplay thing but not so nice to pick on someone for asking a simple question. I'm not trying to pick a fight but, I don't know, just don't think it was necessary to grind in the fact I had a "duh" moment. *shrugs* Just giving my opinion is all.

wolf - March 5, 2008 02:02 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Ookami Yokai @ Feb 29 2008, 02:32 AM)
We should create a list of "OK" video game to anime characters. Though I'm pretty sure Devil May Cry, Ragnarok, and .HACK// are the only ones on the list. :D

I would say Lunar Silver Star story which had anime cut scenes but I don't think that counts. Or in game anime characters like the new character in the Ouran Host Club dating sim game.

Magic Knight Rayearth came first as a video game to the US but its more well known as an anime here. Thats all I could think of.

Joran - March 5, 2008 04:21 AM (GMT)
I could probably start a year long debate about the characters of .hack and cosplay. There were three (at least) different anime series, and two different series of games, as well as some mangas. All of it revolved around the same world (or rather...THE world :lol: )

So which characters are ok, as some appear in the games and the series, others just the games, but all are part of the same story told across several mediums.

Course, it's all moot, since I'm not wearing any of my .hack stuff anyway since those are I think retired
:unsure: but if ever there was a gray area I think this is it. Pretty much every other series is easy. Either it was an anime, or it wasn't :P

KaiserMikeB - March 5, 2008 05:09 AM (GMT)
There is no need for debate, or discussion. The rule is very clearcut. FF7 Last Order is the only exception. Animated cut scenes are not anime. Characters who do not appear in anime are not anime.

Celeste_Orchid - March 23, 2008 02:03 AM (GMT)
is King of Fighters/ Fatal Fury all right?

KaiserMikeB - March 23, 2008 02:11 AM (GMT)
A valid question.

Fatal Fury, deffinitely. It has a solid movie. KoF has a pretty pathetic short attached to it, so if you wanted to split hairs, then yes, it's fine. You would need to provide referance pics from the anime itself though, and use it's character designs.

Celeste_Orchid - March 24, 2008 04:53 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (KaiserMikeB @ Mar 23 2008, 02:11 AM)
A valid question.

Fatal Fury, deffinitely.  It has a solid movie.  KoF has a pretty pathetic short attached to it, so if you wanted to split hairs, then yes, it's fine.  You would need to provide referance pics from the anime itself though, and use it's character designs.

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so because of the short ova I can do either if I wanted?

KaiserMikeB - March 24, 2008 06:35 AM (GMT)
Cori was saying the OVA sort of fell into the FF7 Last Order catagory of something that was basically just cut scenes to Max Impact, and is only commercially available as a bonus item packaged with Max Impact II.

If you fought it we would fold, but essentially I think the rulling is going to be that it is not a substancial enough work.

cori - March 24, 2008 07:14 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (KaiserMikeB @ Mar 24 2008, 02:35 AM)
Cori was saying the OVA sort of fell into the FF7 Last Order catagory of something that was basically just cut scenes to Max Impact, and is only commercially available as a bonus item packaged with Max Impact II.

If you fought it we would fold, but essentially I think the rulling is going to be that it is not a substancial enough work.

Huh? No I didn't. o.o Another Day OVA is definitely not cut scenes from the games Maximum Impact 1 and 2, and is an actual hand animated feature. It just kind of sucks because all of the outfits from MI1 are used in the OVA, so the lines are definitely blurred there. No anime only designs for that one :\

KaiserMikeB - March 24, 2008 07:10 PM (GMT)
Ah, sorry I misunderstood.

Anyhow, I think the concensus is that we would certainly allow it, though it may be begrudgingly. Either way, it's ok.

Edit: And by ok, I mean legit. KoF is sort of terrible, so I'm not down with saying it is OK :P

Ookami Yokai - March 25, 2008 02:06 AM (GMT)
I prefer the video game version =,=
if i wanted to screw a girl with a 10 year old asian boy's body, I'd screw a 10 year old asian boy XD.

Kamiokande - March 25, 2008 03:30 AM (GMT)
The second reference brings up something I didn't consider before. Are Japanese CGI movies allowed? They're not anime but they end up grouped with anime a lot.

Celeste_Orchid - March 25, 2008 06:14 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Ookami Yokai @ Mar 25 2008, 02:06 AM)
I prefer the video game version =,=
if i wanted to screw a girl with a 10 year old asian boy's body, I'd screw a 10 year old asian boy XD.

U PEDOPHILE! I'm tellin ur girlly friend.
QUOTE (KaiserMikeB)
Anyhow, I think the concensus is that we would certainly allow it, though it may be begrudgingly. Either way, it's ok.

Edit: And by ok, I mean legit. KoF is sort of terrible, so I'm not down with saying it is OK
:lolguy: I know it's a horrible anime. I just wanted to know. sorry I couldn't find the actual reference to the POS KoF Mai. And thanks for letting me know. :hippy:

KaiserMikeB - March 25, 2008 10:38 PM (GMT)
Since so much animation is done digitally now, the lines are being blurred, but in general stuff that uses models and is rendered isn't anime, stuff that sequences frames is. Interlaced frames are close enough.




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