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chenDawg - February 26, 2007 12:41 AM (GMT)
will any rooms be showing yaoi/yuri?
like maybe late at night or sumthin :lol:

yuesokka - February 26, 2007 01:11 AM (GMT)
*crosses fingers* God let their be a yoai room, let their be a yaoi room.

Kaisermikeb - February 26, 2007 08:30 AM (GMT)
Friday night I beleive there will be a yaoi showing.

Vincent - February 26, 2007 09:40 AM (GMT)
Cool. e_e

chenDawg - February 26, 2007 11:14 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Kaisermikeb @ Feb 26 2007, 08:30 AM)
Friday night I beleive there will be a yaoi showing.

huuzah~!

Kai - February 27, 2007 01:21 AM (GMT)
Any yuri? Any at all :( ?

bakaboy - February 27, 2007 12:44 PM (GMT)
In all fairness here, GIVE US SUM YURI!!!!

And sum regular hentai would be kewl too (especially the chessy dubbed ones).

I saw WAY TOO MUCH yaoi at Ohayocon...meh, which i'm not dissing ya'll who like that, but how bout sum moderation please.

Lilith's Dark Shadow - February 27, 2007 01:34 PM (GMT)
well there is this nasty fact that yaoi people tend to be fucking obnoxious nad have thiss weird obession with letting the entire world know that they love yaoi...


the yuri side of the coin is a wee bit quiter and tends to get over looked because *gasp* they tend to not behave like raving lunatics.

Kairi029 - February 27, 2007 02:30 PM (GMT)
^_^ I am so watching yaoi!

Lothlin - February 28, 2007 12:08 AM (GMT)
Not all yaoi fans are obnoxious. It's just, the obnoxious ones tend to be a lot louder than everyone else x.x

Yuffie - February 28, 2007 12:19 AM (GMT)
*raises hand* Some are really quiet about it.

yuesokka - February 28, 2007 06:27 AM (GMT)
No it's because for the most part most girls idea's of good porn (aka yoai) has just relatively recently been excepted, (just slightly due to homophobes) and so we tend to be more happy and joyous about it. Plus girls seem to be more willing to spend good money on a good yoai, where as boys tend to not want to part with theirs on such things, and choose to just download less tastefull porn. Which most of which are generic and don't call forth dicussion or praise where as most girls tend to seek out and purchase well written yoai.

kalajessta - February 28, 2007 06:35 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (yuesokka @ Feb 28 2007, 01:27 AM)
No it's because for the most part most girls idea's of good porn (aka yoai) has just relatively recently been excepted, (just slightly due to homophobes) and so we tend to be more happy and joyous about it. Plus girls seem to be more willing to spend good money on a good yoai, where as boys tend to not want to part with theirs on such things, and choose to just download less tastefull porn. Which most of which are generic and don't call forth dicussion or praise where as most girls tend to seek out and purchase well written yoai.

Please spell yaoi correctly.

Kaisermikeb - February 28, 2007 06:55 AM (GMT)
Also, don't generalize without any facts behind it. Speculation has no place here unless described as such.

yuesokka - February 28, 2007 12:07 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (kalajessta @ Feb 28 2007, 06:35 AM)
QUOTE (yuesokka @ Feb 28 2007, 01:27 AM)
No it's because for the most part most girls idea's of good porn (aka yoai) has just relatively recently been excepted, (just slightly due to homophobes) and so we tend to be more happy and joyous about it. Plus girls seem to be more willing to spend good money on a good yoai, where as boys tend to not want to part with theirs on such things, and choose to just download less tastefull porn. Which most of which are generic and don't call forth dicussion or praise where as most girls tend to seek out and purchase well written yoai.

Please spell yaoi correctly.

Whoops didn't even notice yeah sorry.

QUOTE (Kaisermikeb Posted on Feb 28 2007 @ 06:55 AM)

  Also, don't generalize without any facts behind it. Speculation has no place here unless described as such.


What's the difference from the other guys saying most are abnixoiusly annoying? That's a generalization.

Lilith's Dark Shadow - February 28, 2007 12:20 PM (GMT)
except for the fact that i can prove my generalization based upon observations scrub

in fact, all you pretty much have to do is go to a con and unless you trying to ignore it, you'll see I'm right...


i swear do people not think these days?

islington - February 28, 2007 09:16 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (yuesokka @ Feb 28 2007, 01:27 AM)
No it's because for the most part most girls idea's of good porn (aka yoai) has just relatively recently been excepted, (just slightly due to homophobes) and so we tend to be more happy and joyous about it. Plus girls seem to be more willing to spend good money on a good yoai, where as boys tend to not want to part with theirs on such things, and choose to just download less tastefull porn. Which most of which are generic and don't call forth dicussion or praise where as most girls tend to seek out and purchase well written yoai.

Wait. 'Good porn'? I'm not sure I understand what you're saying here. Are you saying that all yaoi is inherently good? I mean...I've seen some pretty shitty stuff in my time. But then again, we each have our own aesthetic when it comes to such things. Hrm.

And also...tasteful? I just never expected 'tasteful' to be used to describe pornography. I'm just going to assume that you're referring to the softcore stuff that isn't technically yaoi.

Lothlin - March 1, 2007 12:06 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Yuffie @ Feb 28 2007, 12:19 AM)
*raises hand* Some are really quiet about it.

Yup. *raises her hand as well*

And as far as tasteful and good yaoi goes... cruise around Y!gallery for a bit. Sure, there's good porn (buried somewhere in the recesses,) and there's decent softcore stuff, and lots of stuff that doesn't have anything to do with porn at all...

But then there is really bad stuff. Stuff that makes you TWITCH in horror. Really, porn is porn across the board, be it good or bad.

Kaisermikeb - March 1, 2007 12:40 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (yuesokka @ Feb 28 2007, 08:07 AM)
QUOTE (kalajessta @ Feb 28 2007, 06:35 AM)
QUOTE (yuesokka @ Feb 28 2007, 01:27 AM)
No it's because for the most part most girls idea's of good porn (aka yoai) has just relatively recently been excepted, (just slightly due to homophobes) and so we tend to be more happy and joyous about it. Plus girls seem to be more willing to spend good money on a good yoai, where as boys tend to not want to part with theirs on such things, and choose to just download less tastefull porn. Which most of which are generic and don't call forth dicussion or praise where as most girls tend to seek out and purchase well written yoai.

Please spell yaoi correctly.

Whoops didn't even notice yeah sorry.

QUOTE (Kaisermikeb Posted on Feb 28 2007 @ 06:55 AM)

   Also, don't generalize without any facts behind it. Speculation has no place here unless described as such.


What's the difference from the other guys saying most are abnixoiusly annoying? That's a generalization.

What others said about yaoi types being annoying is clearly an observation. You acted like you were describing facts, when most of it was just pulled out of your ass or based on your own observations (which contrary to LDS's statement, isn't meaningful).

You said that "most girls idea's of good porn" was yaoi, which is NOT true. The vast majority of women in America do not seek out gay porn, and there is no evidence that this is because of homophobia.
I'd go on farther, but the rest of your little speach was so poorly written and so idiotic that it isn't worth commenting on.

Yuffie - March 1, 2007 01:04 AM (GMT)
I'm a straight girl.

I prefer yuri...

yuesokka - March 1, 2007 02:32 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Kaisermikeb @ Mar 1 2007, 12:40 AM)
QUOTE (yuesokka @ Feb 28 2007, 08:07 AM)
QUOTE (kalajessta @ Feb 28 2007, 06:35 AM)
QUOTE (yuesokka @ Feb 28 2007, 01:27 AM)
No it's because for the most part most girls idea's of good porn (aka yoai) has just relatively recently been excepted, (just slightly due to homophobes) and so we tend to be more happy and joyous about it. Plus girls seem to be more willing to spend good money on a good yoai, where as boys tend to not want to part with theirs on such things, and choose to just download less tastefull porn. Which most of which are generic and don't call forth dicussion or praise where as most girls tend to seek out and purchase well written yoai.

Please spell yaoi correctly.

Whoops didn't even notice yeah sorry.

QUOTE (Kaisermikeb Posted on Feb 28 2007 @ 06:55 AM)

  Also, don't generalize without any facts behind it. Speculation has no place here unless described as such.


What's the difference from the other guys saying most are abnixoiusly annoying? That's a generalization.

What others said about yaoi types being annoying is clearly an observation. You acted like you were describing facts, when most of it was just pulled out of your ass or based on your own observations (which contrary to LDS's statement, isn't meaningful).

You said that "most girls idea's of good porn" was yaoi, which is NOT true. The vast majority of women in America do not seek out gay porn, and there is no evidence that this is because of homophobia.
I'd go on farther, but the rest of your little speach was so poorly written and so idiotic that it isn't worth commenting on.

Well most girls I know seek out no porn, those who do seek out gay porn including, some of my freind's teacher. (This one in particular though does go for anything, she's the advacned sexuality teacher.)

And actually it is based on things brought up in my freind's class. That boys are more likey to purchase a video format porn or download one than they are to buy a paper format (as in book or magizine)

And when my friends and i went to purchase a yoai that was a large collection of several yoai's some boys there siad now why don't they come out with a big book of yuri. Along with some of our guy freinds, and it was brought up if there was such a book would they be willing to pay the $20 for it, (that's how much the yoai book was) and they all (that's 5 boys at that particular moment)all said no I'd rather just go home and download some.

yuesokka - March 1, 2007 02:46 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Yuffie @ Mar 1 2007, 01:04 AM)
I'm a straight girl.

I prefer yuri...

(To many quotes in the other one, and I haven't quite figured out how to edit those well.)

Good for you! (not being sarcastic) To each his own, and it is in no ones place to say anything about what you like or dislike. Again that's why I say most, and never all or everyone. I wasn't trying to insult you by what I said in any way if you felt that way.

Kaisermikeb - March 1, 2007 03:14 AM (GMT)
If you're in college, act like it. Observations and research are two very different things, and you're missing the point entirely. Your arguement may be valid, but your method of supporting it isn't.

Don't come back until you learn how to debate properly and like an adult. Until then you're going to kill thread after thread.

Lothlin - March 1, 2007 04:08 AM (GMT)
.....Really, and this could mainly be that I just got done watching V for Vendetta and thus I'm feeling political, but I'm willing to bet that half of the reason you think women seek out porn less than men is because women are more opressed by societies expectations. I could go more, but eh, it would mostly be personal opinion, because I can't seem to find the references I was going to bring up about sexuality in women.

Not that I'm quite sure I remember them perfectly anyway.

Also.

YAOI not yoai.

Kairi029 - March 1, 2007 05:20 AM (GMT)
QUOTE
this could mainly be that I just got done watching V for Vendetta and thus I'm feeling political



hahahaha niiiiice.

mikalaya - March 1, 2007 05:38 AM (GMT)
I have a purse that says "I love yaoi" who is Yaoi.

*runs from angry mob*

no serious, i bought the purse just cuz it was cute and it holds my crap. (although the price sucked)

Wyatt - March 1, 2007 01:04 PM (GMT)
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I love Yuri. I won't deny it. But we should respect the heroes of the past, right?

ZarkuroKurama - March 2, 2007 11:15 PM (GMT)
ahh heck i would be happy with something anything

yuesokka - March 3, 2007 05:40 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (ZarkuroKurama @ Mar 2 2007, 11:15 PM)
ahh heck i would be happy with something anything

i like your siggy nice. XD.

Yuffie - March 3, 2007 03:46 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (ZarkuroKurama @ Mar 2 2007, 11:15 PM)
ahh heck i would be happy with something anything

I think that siggy may be a crime...

ZarkuroKurama - March 4, 2007 02:34 AM (GMT)
oh well i try my random yaoi gurl pic is still in the works of getting one

Wyatt - March 4, 2007 05:13 AM (GMT)
The picture, I don't really care, though I'd say making it a little smaller would be prudent- no taller than 100-150 pixels, say? The text, on the other hand, was taking up way more space than necessary.

This is not Biggs - March 4, 2007 05:18 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (mikalaya @ Mar 1 2007, 05:38 AM)
I have a purse that says "I love yaoi" who is Yaoi.

*runs from angry mob*

no serious, i bought the purse just cuz it was cute and it holds my crap. (although the price sucked)

Hahaha, you're in for a surprise...

Wikipedia's Yaoi article

Fadork - March 5, 2007 03:28 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Kairi029 @ Feb 27 2007, 02:30 PM)
^_^ I am so watching yaoi!

You AND me my love <3

SweetMisery - March 9, 2007 05:56 AM (GMT)
My sister likes yaoi, I like yuri [actually I like both]

so anything where I can watch anything without hearing a bunch of giggling is always good :)

or see people sneaking into 18+ rooms. [was with someone who did that. ... not directly with them, but heard them tell a door guard that she had to find someone for something *shrugs*]

sorry, no real imput I guess

chenDawg - March 11, 2007 04:06 AM (GMT)
Soo, any ideas as of what yaoi they will be playing...? ^__^

ZarkuroKurama - March 12, 2007 01:27 PM (GMT)
nope i just hope its good

Bukkake Tsunami - March 20, 2007 05:52 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (yuesokka @ Feb 28 2007, 01:27 AM)
No it's because for the most part most girls idea's of good porn (aka yoai) has just relatively recently been excepted, (just slightly due to homophobes) and so we tend to be more happy and joyous about it. Plus girls seem to be more willing to spend good money on a good yoai, where as boys tend to not want to part with theirs on such things, and choose to just download less tastefull porn. Which most of which are generic and don't call forth dicussion or praise where as most girls tend to seek out and purchase well written yoai.




Really, I'm a girl and I feel that most yaoi fangirls are just as perverted as their male counterparts. Yaoi has become such a huge thing at cons and it's rare that you go even one hour without seeing some fangirl with a "I <3 Yaoi" sign, or a "Male X Male 4EVAH" sign while walking during a con. As a former yaoi fangirl back in high school, I can relate to them... but that same experience also tells me that yaoi fangirls are kind of... no offense, immature. The majority of yaoi is poorly conceived and written (as are most hentai doujins), and the characters are often horribly out of character. Just because a character is gay doesn't automatically make him an annoying, "always has to be saved" sissy. :angry: What do most girls even really know about gay sex or relationships? Heck, they barely know anything about straight relationships if today's modern shoujo is any indication ("lol, he raped me so I'm gonna fall in love with him and start dating him!").

Yaoi is not unaccepted because of homophobia. I definitely don't fit your standard definition of a homophobe (I support gay marriage, have gay friends, etc.), but as a woman.. I just really don't feel arousel while watching actual gay porn. Like with two real men. Yaoi is OK because usually neither character actually looks like a man. They are drawn to be aesthetically pleasing, and are usually fairly feminine.

As for the "girls spend money on tasteful porn while guys are cheap and downoad free hardcore smut"... I'm a girl and I download hardcore smut all the time. :P I wouldn't call the doujins especially high quality, or worthy of me spending $20+ on them. I own one Harry Potter doujin (the dealer lied and said it was 18+.. but it actually had no nudity whatsoever) and I bought it during the height of my yaoi fangirl days. I really wanted to own one and be able to look at it whenever. I think it might have just been part of the whole "hee hee, this is so naughty" phase I was going through.. which might have been part of the yaoi obsession in the first place. Anyway, I haven't looked at the doujin in years. I still read some (well-written IMH) yaoi fanfiction, but it seems like they are few and far between.


I think it's ok to like Yaoi as long as you don't overdo it and force it on the rest of us. Personally I don't mind yaoi, but I really like Yuri, too! Yuri is so underrepresented at cons. There is always like 5 yaoi panels, and then MAYBE one for yuri. Some of the really great series in anime and manga were yuri (or semi-yuri), like Riyoko Ikeda's Rose of Versailles, Brother Dear Brother, Claudine, and of course more modern stuff like Revolutionary Girl Utena.


Whew, that was a lot. I didn't mean to insult anyone who likes yaoi, but just.. keep in mind how your actions affect others at cons. And viva la Yuri!

Wyatt - March 20, 2007 06:28 PM (GMT)
What are you on about? Good fanfiction is just rare in general. <_<

Bukkake Tsunami - March 21, 2007 08:22 PM (GMT)
Haha, that's definitely true.

But to me it just seems to me like yaoi fanfic in general usually involves more OOCness than your average fic. Unfailingly at least one of the male characters gets turned really really girly, even if they were really macho in the show. I could get behind... for example let's say a Goku X Vegeta fic, if both characters are still as macho as they are in the manga and it isn't too lovey-dovy. The Prince of All Saiyans does not do Valentine's Day, dammit!

Yes, I have read this fanfic. >_>




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