Would anyone be interseted in 1 vs 100 being a game show at Punch? I would love to run it.

Whats that?

Aah, it's a new game show on nbc:

http://www.nbc.com/1vs100/

Seems interesting, it seems really interesting. How would you implement it though? Like... oh, if the one wins, it's all and good, but if the mob wins, how would the prizes be split up? I'm just kind of curious; money is easy to split up, but con stuff presents more difficulties.

Correct me if I'm wrong or confusing, all I know about the show is from TV previews and the bio of it you linked XD

I'm not sure yet on any of the details. I thought it would be fun to try. Though, I'm not sure if we can find a 100 people to be in the MOB yet, so we may have to play like 1 vs 25, or something to that effect.

Fair enough XD

Hrm. Well, maybe you could do something like they do for anime millionaire; put a bunch of names in a hat, pull out one, and that lucky person gets to be in the hot seat, then how many is left over gets to be the mob? That may be simplest.

Or have a hat for the seat, and a line for the mob?

Yay brainstorming, neh?

BTW, if this does happen, you want some help with questions and stuff?

Oh def! I can use all the help I can get. The thing thus far is I plan on using Powerpoint for the questions and having it up on a projector. Though, I'm not too skilled in Powerpoint, so I'm hoping I can find someone that is.

Damn it! I thought this was about fighting a hundred people defeating them all with a buster sword. Or energy attacks or sickin' a Charizard on em or........

I've got a little powerpoint experiance, I could fiddle with it a bit and probably figure out how to get the randomizer set up (and hell, if all else fails, I can write a program in python that will work just as well! 'course, that would involving dragging my harddrive or something with me to the con with the program and all.... XD). I'll mess with it once I get a chance.

Multiple choice, with four possible answers right?

It's 3 answers per question.

Gotcha! I probably won't have a chance to fool with powerpoint tonight, but eh, that helps. Tells me how to make the layout and all ^^

EDIT: Alright, yay, powerpoint totally uses Visual Basic.... of course, it's been years since I've USED it, but it shouldn't be too hard to get a slide randomizer set up. Probably.

.....still so tempted to just write up a program in python, would you mind if I fiddled with that a bit first and see if I can get a nice looking program out of it? I'm much more used to it than I am Powerpoint or VBA, and I could probably make the filesize a lot smaller XD

As long as either way works with my laptop, I will be happy ^^;;

It should; I can burn it all to a CD or something and see, I'll have to check and see if python needs to be installed to run the programs, or if it just needs to be on the disk, or whatever. It's been a while, I've forgotten XD

...and hell, even if we do go with powerpoint, gives me a chance to fiddle with programming. XD. Fun fun.

I'm not opposed to the idea, though since you are new at gameshows I have some concerns, the biggest being the range of questions. Before we commit to it I would want to review the complete question list to make sure that your asking a wide enough range of questions at an appropriate skill level.

Also, what are your plans for prize support?

Last, I recoomend making something with Python strongly. Hell, I've seen games in flash or HTML that work great too. Powerpoint, however, would not be acceptable.

But its the most advanced thing a computer can carry!

The questions will be ranged from novice to advanced and it will be mixed. It will be strictly based on anime for right now.

The prizes will be decided once this project starts to get underway ^^;; I was going to check with some dealers and artists that will be attending Punch to see if they can donate for the prizes.

You seem to be missing what I was asking. I will want a complete list of questions before I approve and schedule the gameshow.

Also, do not contact dealers for prizes on behalf of the convention, ever. That goes for everyone (there have been incidents in the past). It is ok to ask the convention for prize support if you don't have enough prizes on your own.

I'm curious, why wouldn't powerpoint be acceptable? Not that I have a huge desire to use it or anything, just curiousity.

I was thinking about the questions though, and for a game like this, we're going to need a lot of them. Keeping them varied is going to be interesting; Mike, honestly, do you have any suggestions? I'm all for suggestions! Suggestions are good XD

Honestly, experiece is really the only shortcut. Generally we leave gameshows up to the most seasoned veterans of fandom, mainly because younger fans just don't know enough to do it right. Even if you did go through a guide of the 200 top anime for your questions, and used online resources to make questions for the shows you don't know, you still wouldn't know what a good question would be.

You've got awesome taste in anime, but not nearly enough watching experience. Kala has admitted on these forums that she specifically doesn't watch older anime, so I'm not sure if you guys would be able to handle it. I won't be able to hlep with this one because I'm writing two gameshows myself right now.

I would ask the advice and help of one of your seniors at your respective anime clubs, or ask around amongst your more seasoned friends. Even us oldschool hardcore fans ask each others help while doing these sorts of things for more rounded questions.

Lol, Mike knows all. :]
^^

Thanks, that's fair enough. I do some of the older stuff, and honestly, all I've been DOING on break it watching the anime I need to catch up on, so I've gotten a few more series covered and such. I do have friends that definately know more, I'll bug them for some questions.

Kala, the first thing we should probably do then is get a list of anime that we can pull questions from and see if we get a good thread. And probably avoid stuff that hasn't been completely released in the US yet, right? Since well... not everyone watches fansubs while the stuff is still in Japan. XD

...Darn, that means Host Club is out. Hehe.

Aah, I'm an expert at imported anime. I have a large collection that I have and seen and I have a very good resources as well for old school anime. Many of CSUAOA's members are into old school, so I'll be bugging them alot for questions.

Yes, a thread would be wise indeed.

Most of the friends I'll be bugging aren't in my anime club; out of the people in our club, I honestly don't have many that know more about anime then me. There's one or two folks that have a slight giant robot obsession, but that's that. All of the more experienced members pretty much have graduated... but we're a small school and all, so, it can't be helped. *sigh*

(I'd start something, but I'm at my grandma's working on a cosplay right now, so I don't have time to loiter on the comp. When I get back from here, I'll be a tad more active ><)

All anime is imported. It's statements like those that make me concerned!

If you mean digi-subs, forget it. It's ok to have a few questions from high profile fansubs (though probably nothing less than 2 years old) but for the most part the questions should be based around highly accessible shows in the United States. We are not out to punish fans for obaying the law and waiting until they can support the US anime industry to watch their anime.
At the same time, there are certain shows that all fans *SHOULD* see, and some of those are only available as fansubs. Stuff like Rose of Versalles, Legend of the Galactic Heros, or (until recently) Kodomo no Omocha are notable exceptions to this rule.

There should be very few questions over anime released since 2002.

I pretty much meant the newer fansubs, not older stuff that simply isn't available in the US. (Note to self, be specific.) I've gotcha though, Mike, thanks again XD

Mike knows about Pyhon? Holy! What is the world coming to!
My buddys can do it in phython without a sweat. It's really easy. I might ask them to do it but you'd have to know what you want in it. Or even in the flash thing. We are working on a program for a game for Ohayocon using Python and flash. If you are there, maybe we can talk about it or something. I saw that show with Bob Saget.

But honestly, Mikey has a point. And fansubs shouldn't be refered too, because they do have a "taste" to them compared to stuff that is out. Older amine is availiable, such as Blue Seed, Sailor Moon, Lupin, and etc.

But you don't even HAVE to HAVE the knowledge either with THIS game show. You just have all the questions, all have anwsers. An answer sheet. With a program, it shouldn't be a problem. But it helps a lot to know about the subjects being asked but it's not requirement for THIS show if seen you've it.

Well, they do have to have the knowledge if they are going to be writing the gameshow!

Exactly. So it would be best if they did know.

I would like to point that I'm not a total idiot when it comes to anime knowledge XD

This whole thread makes me laugh. Sillies.

*goes back to lurking*

Wow... this has gone completely off subject. Anyways, I'm going to start writitng some questions this week (procrastinating on Ohayo Con stuff... as ususal). I'll post them up when I'm done.

I'm half tempted to be cruel about this, and wait until you post them up to disqualify them, but I'll be kind. You can't post any questions on here, or ask for any on the forums. Then people could get the answers ahead of time!!
PM me or email programming@animepunch.org

That's understandable... I meant that I would post them to Lothlin.

Longtime convention game show vet Greggo weighing in here.

The main problem with 1 vs 100 is *NOT* the questions. It's the accounting.

You have to quickly be able to assess the answers of each and every person in the mob or else you're going to be spending the entirety of the game waiting for results to be tallied.

Here's what I came up with. Underneath the chair of each member of the mob are three answer cards. Each card is marked with a) the position of the mob member (numbered 1 through 100) and b) A, B, or C. At the end of each row of mob members there would be a staff member whose job would be to collect cards from each member of the mob during every question. Once the question is answered by the contestant and the correct answer revealed, starting with the front row and going back to the back row, the staff members would call out the numbers of each mob member who got the question wrong, and those mob members would exit the mob and go off to a side seating area.

For the "ASK THE MOB" help, two staffers would call out the numbers of a mob member on their row, and those two would state their case.

For the help involving getting more information on an answer, it would be easy for each staffer to call out the number of people on their row who answered the question with a particular answer, and the contestant could then narrow down their mob member choice from there.

For the "TRUST THE MOB" the staffers would quickly get together and determine the majority answer, since they'd each have in hand all the answer cards.

After every question the mob members still in the game would be given their cards back and the next question could be read.

Money-wise, I recommend using the dollars-to-yen method that I incorporate into all my game shows. The contestant would have a potential grand prize of say 50,000 yen in prizes. (That's roughly $450. Adjust to your prize budget.) Approrpriately determine the amount that would be given per mob member eliminated on each question. If the mob wins, there's really no good way to divvy up prizes unless it's a cash prize that's offered, and that'd wind up pretty small. Again, accounting is a difficulty.

Basically, I took a look at how adaptable 1 vs 100 would be and just shook my head. There's no way to make the accounting not be either clunky as all heck or take way too long to keep the rest of the audience interested (or even worse, the audience would have plenty of time while they're waiting to inadvertently shout out the correct answer).

I'd strongly recommend against doing this game. I personally wouldn't touch it.

That problem could easly be conquered by index cards. Everyone would write their anwsers (with a time limit and if they don't make that limit, it's put as a "incorrect" ) The "Host" would have the REAL Anwser as BOB SAGET does on the show. Another person would be in charge of the "removal " of those people. (They could all be sitting in chairs.

Though it would be nice with the flash and everything. It would probably not be good to touch it "this" year but there WAYS to play the game correctly.

That still doesn't address quick accounting of the answers, especially if the contestant decides to use of of their helps. One person in charge of 100 answers would just take far too long, and in the meantime you're boring the rest of the audience to death.

It looks fast on the show thanks to a combination of editing and a computer system that handles the input of 100 different people's answers at once. The analog version just would not make for good television...er, a good at-convention event.

And index cards still doesn't address what to do with the prize if the mob wins.

Wow, it's a surprise to see you show up on our forums and deliver gameshow advice! Welcome to the forums, it's an honor to have you!

Thanks for the good word.

I hate to sound pretentious, to be sure. I'm always curious to see what game show ideas people have, and to see if their thought processes are similar to mine in regards to how to make game shows work out in anime convention formats, and to offer advice or constructive criticism where appropriate.

1 vs 100 is just one of those formats that look to be a train wreck waiting to happen. There isn't a game show that I've seen that I haven't put thought into as far as making an anime con version, and there are several that I've come to the conclusion make great television but wouldn't work in a venue like an anime con for the reasons I've already stated in this thread.

The bottom line is, convention events need to be entertaining to everyone involved. The organizers, the participants and the audience all need to be having fun or else they will feel like their time was wasted. And in a venue as fast-moving and as short as an anime convention weekend, everyone's looking for the most bang for their buck. As one of the people who has the most experience organizing this specific sort of entertainment, I strongly recommend against it because the audience will be bored to death waiting for answers to be tallied. One need only look at cosplay while the judges are tallying their results for an example of a bored, bored audience.

It's interesting for me too, as a guy who has made several gameshows for cons (usually generic trivia oriented ones from scratch) to see how other people do it. It's also interesting seeing Saturn and Kala working on something together, since they are (probably the only) two people who hate me on this forum!

I personally probably wouldn't attempt 1 vs 100 at a con. It's a lot of work, requires a handfull of staffers (when normally there is just one to check the door, if that) lots of paper, prep work, and a divisable prize. Also, it's a kind of lame gameshow that not many people have seen or even heard of.

I could see modifying it into something that was actually pretty cool though. Rather than find 100 people and line them up or what not, just have it 1 vs all. Might as well involve everyone who shows up. It would be hell to organize, and I'm not sure how questions would work. I'll have to think about this further.

Another approach would to have the whole audience line up (or at least anyone who wanted to compete) and go head to head with the reigning champion. Round Robin style, winner stays up, one hit one kill just like the samurai. After everyone goes through, whoever is last standing wins.

Now that's the sort of fast-moving game show that would be exciting to watch!

Original ideas can be the best!