Title: why does everyone hate Edward?
Aly - October 18, 2006 07:23 PM (GMT)
I'm so tired of this... the board hates Edward... and i've seen really poor attitude in certain topics.
"How much blood has Ed lost throughout the series? he should be dead." oh shut up... i've lost more blood then Mr. Sexy over there. every time i had to have a surgery i nearly bled to death on the surgery table. EVERY TIME. and i'm an asskicker, i practice Martial Arts, i've lost bunches of blood while fighting in that class. *nods*
you guys post topics in the gallery of Edward getting hurt. eff it. think of teh REAL fangirls who click that. "owchies" is frikken right.
all you envy and greed lovers--i don blame the greed lovers--i love greed too--but i hate Envy. I just do. He killed Edward. Envy deserved to die. he's a cold blooded murderer but i wouldn't give a **** if he killed Hohenheim. I don watch teh show anymore because i don like watching reruns that much... i've seen EVERY episode of the show--I thought it was pretty good. I love Edward, Alphonse and all those people.
and also....why doesn't anyone know Havoc is there? he's mr. Sexypants the second. actually he's king sexy. he rocks. start noticin' him with this piccy.

No matter what you all say. i'm still gonna be a diehard fangirl of Edward and Jean. No doubt about it. I've recorded every episode, and when i get married and have kids you'll all d*** well see I WILL show the episodes to them--d*** RIGHT. according to my mom, my kids'll be blonde. so HA HA. i'll end up havin 2 boys, d*** right. ^^ you know what i'll name them just to piss the Edward and Alphonse haters off.
:rolleyes: Almost done.
I know .... hm.. what's his name hates Edward because he's ignorant, annoying, and rude... i'm all of the above.....
but i'm more of winry. *flings wrench at random Edward hater* he he he he he he.
so Edward haters--tell me why you hate Mr. Sexy and don notice Havoc....please tell me... or get a headload of wrenches.
xGhostx - October 18, 2006 08:47 PM (GMT)
>> Ed is a selfish brat who would do anything to get what he wanted and barely knew when to finally stop, he was wreckless and arrogant and was determined not to face reality because he thought he was right in all he did or thought.
As for Envy, is he really all that different from Edward? Both shared a hate for their father, but Envy truely hated him with a passion. But you can't honestly say he had no right to hate him either. Ed needed to die xD he thought he could do what ever he wanted, use the military and act on complete free will and impulses.
As for Havok, he rules but they never showed him enough for everyone to like him. The one episode he was in most was a hit with everyone, I mean who doesnt remember "Pomato" ?
also no one will notice you named your kids after anime characters, so just let it go.
Aly - October 18, 2006 08:49 PM (GMT)
that whole thing you typed sounded like me. yeh i've been told that I needed to die.. I'll probably get killed by my own d*** fangirlism
xGhostx - October 18, 2006 08:53 PM (GMT)
he is an anime character, you are real..theres a difference. Also I doubt you'd let people suffer just to get what you want, but what ever. My point is, the only thing most fangirls see in him or any of the other characters are their Sex appeal, theres a lot more to characters than how they look.. Lust is a good example, as are most of the characters
Aly - October 18, 2006 08:55 PM (GMT)
-sighs- I like his cocky attitude and how he looks, i see what he's about.. I know what he does is sometimes bad or really stupid but the stupid part is just like me. i wouldn't let people suffer to get what i want.. but i've never seen Edward do that... can you please tell me a time when he actually did that so i can comprehend it more?
xGhostx - October 18, 2006 09:36 PM (GMT)
well, do you remember Envys demonstration near the end? thats a good example, basically he just shows all the lives that have been ruined because of Edward, even if he didn't intend it
If he didn't push for a talking chimera so much, I doubt Nina would have become one
Sloth, her whole existance is his fault
Al, most of Als suffering is directly linked to Edwards actions
XD would Greed work? T_T Ed killed him after all.
Ed kept getting 'Stang and his crew pegged for his unreasonible or irrisponsible actions, which really pissed Roy off.
=OO eds opposite, he got him killed~
Als opposite, in a way.. ;-;
eh, thats all I can come up with for now..
"The road to hell is pathed with Good intentions" - Ian Malcom
Aly - October 18, 2006 09:46 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (xGhostx @ Oct 18 2006, 03:36 PM) |
well, do you remember Envys demonstration near the end? thats a good example, basically he just shows all the lives that have been ruined because of Edward, even if he didn't intend it
If he didn't push for a talking chimera so much, I doubt Nina would have become one Sloth, her whole existance is his fault Al, most of Als suffering is directly linked to Edwards actions XD would Greed work? T_T Ed killed him after all. Ed kept getting 'Stang and his crew pegged for his unreasonible or irrisponsible actions, which really pissed Roy off.
=OO eds opposite, he got him killed~ Als opposite, in a way.. ;-;
eh, thats all I can come up with for now..
"The road to hell is pathed with Good intentions" - Ian Malcom |
Did you notice when greed was killed Ed was crying?
"Greed...greed...hey don't do this..." or something then he started to cry because he'd killed one of his enemies. then he was upset for like...forever...
both Ed and Al created Sloth, but Ed suggested Human transmutation so i can call him a retard for that action, I can say a talking Chimera is cool...but Ed shouldnt've pushed it... but he only said it once i remember.....
yes... I know Al suffered because of Ed... "my brother i was a fool" Yeah! he sure was! but he's winry's fool.
I don remember much what Ed did to the military but i remember his stupid actions in japanese in risembool :( he pissed everyone off by runnin from the military and tricking everyone into thinking he went east.
he's still funny though, his cocky attitude pwnz, but your right i gotta stop and think "he's a retard for doin all that" thankx for tellin me that stuff.
when i was staying with my friend lindsey, she had just bought the FMA game for PS2 and we played that for like 3 days in a row without sleep or anything else, it was so cool.... but that's like off topic right now lol
I still love Edward, I will still write fanfics, and i will still draw him........i will start drawing him doing stupid things....>=3 :rolleyes:
Krazydog - October 18, 2006 11:29 PM (GMT)
1. Everyone claims Ed's a genius. Well whoop-de-friggin-doo, he sure doesn't use his god forsaken head when he needs it. And most of his genius comes from the gate, Sadly enough Al is greater genius because he was younger and knew just as much knowledge as Ed. Not to mention he woulda passed the alchemy exams if he wasn't a walking suit of armor.
2. On contrare, he didn't really cry for Greed. He just screamed cuz he killed him. Well guess what hot-shot, ever heard of listening to reason? Greed gave him a chance and that lil vengeful freak went off to kill him anyway. Al wasn't hurt, yet he killed someone because of it. Sad. His impulsiveness is annoying.
3. Rude. 100% Rude to women. You wonder why Winry smacks him around? Cuz he's a disrespectful lil prick. WHO the HELL calls a woman an old lady? Who? I'm from a traditional korean family, so respect is like SUPER heavy. How dare he calls Izumi *Who saved his town* an old lady? And Martyl? What about her? You killed Greed you should be a lil more respectful, FOOL!
4. Ed and AL created Sloth, that's true. However, it was Ed's idea. Al went against it but he couldn't say no to his older brother. So the creation of Sloth was Ed's fault, as was Al losing his body.
5. FYI, if you go to the military and try to go solo without permission. 100% guarenteed you'll either a. Get your butt kicked, or b. Get Kicked out. Because he was under Mustang and his gang, he was saved. YET, he's disrespectful to his superior. Ungreatful.
6. He feels no remorse. Basically he when he kills someone he shows a 1 minute remorse period and then uses his new gained information to kill the very NEXT person. Nice Ed, Nice.
7. Quite frankly caused the Death of Everybody both directly and indirectly. This is self explanatory.
I have a bunch of reasons. but too lazy to type.
And don't hate on Envy so much. Unless yeah haven't noticed his life wasn't a walk in the park either. And he's evil for a REASON. Yes he did kill hughes *and I hate him for that*, However it was great when he killed Ed. Total Pwnage.
Not to mention, how many people did Ed kill? That's right. Envy has proved his point in the end. *I wish Lust woulda strung Envy's rear to a pole and poked holes in him tho*
And Yes, Havok is THE Hawtness. However I still like Scar and Greed more.
Dread - October 19, 2006 12:03 AM (GMT)
The main reason why I really dislike Ed is the reason that Krazy listed as #6.
He pissed me off so much when Lust died, and when Sloth died. Yes, I know Sloth wasn't his real mother, (well, she was his mother in a strange way) but if someone who looked just like my Mom died, I would probably cry or something, even if the thing that looked like my mother was "souless".
Sadly, I hate Ed so much for that single reason, that I laughed when Ed died.
Hinata - October 19, 2006 12:33 AM (GMT)
Well Ed didnt kill lust. But I hate the fact he was like "Why should I turn you into a human?!" Hes such a snot. He makes such a big deal about being small too.Age 15? Yeah right. However*SPOILER* In the movie he was mature, and i liked him alot more.
Ha! I just noticed something. Envy said he forgot what he used to lok like, thats why he always looks like that, but in episode...51? He turns into his real form. Its just wierd. Lol kinda random sorry!
Aly - October 19, 2006 12:46 AM (GMT)
For everytime you call Ed a Snot or Ignorant or Annoying-- i'll always say "sounds like me" I know i shouldn't but can i asked for this topic to be deleted?
Dark General - October 19, 2006 07:09 PM (GMT)
Hold on. I say Edward should have died the most (either me or Krazy). Throughout the entire series how many SHOULD Edward have died? At least 5, maybe more. He got killed by Envy in episode 50, and then got brought back in episode 51.
He's never there when Poor Alphose is in trouble. And you call yourself a big brother? You got him into that suit of armor, you can at least be by his side.
Rose....... How did Rose get raped again? Oh yeah because Edward totally messed up Lior and sent them spliting up, which caused the Military to come in and eventually raping Rose.
No Compashion..... He gets mad when people talk about Alphose soul being traped on a big suit of armor, but yet somehow treats Homunculus like s**t. They ARE only 1 step away from becoming like Alphose.
The hand of death...... I'll do this.... Greed-dead, Sloth-dead, Lust-dead,
Alphose-almost died twice and turned into the stone, Marco-dead, Mahjal-dead, Scar-dead, Mother- unsuccesful transmutation, Hughes-dead, and let's not forget countless Ishbalians.
.....I'll think i'll stop there. The 1 great thing he did was help deliver Hughes baby.
Aly - October 19, 2006 07:27 PM (GMT)
uhg i know but he didn't kill ALL OF THEM.
Wrath killed lust.
scar was just killed but not by Edward
Marco...WHEN THE HELL DID HE DIE?! I didn't see no death.....wait.....
I'm not a fangirl of him anymore... i'm a fangirl of Havoc.. don't tell me bad things about havoc--because he's beyond sexy and he rocks.
you totally wiped out the image of Edward from my mind--and from my boyfriend's face... he looked just like him... now he looks like al ^^ but human al..
ok i'm still a bit of a fangirl of him but now i know what he's been doing but I still love his cocky-ness and ...his way of being really really annoying... because he acts like me >=3 except the old lady part
it's okay if you hate him i don't care but i don't hate him, i've been killed by my own fangirlism.. Now i'm a havoc fangirl *glomps havoc*
Krazydog - October 19, 2006 08:49 PM (GMT)
Ed handed Marco to the Fuhrer = DEATH!
Ed tossed the Locket at Lust when he KNEW deliberately that it was her weakness and she wouldn't want it. That caused = Death.
Havok = PWNAGE in the Manga. Him and his shotgun... dang that was sexy. But you feel sorry for him since Mustang gets all the girls.
By the way, Envy says he doesn't remember how he looked, obviously he does. However he lies, because A. It's Hohenheim's face and B. He'd rather not remember.
Hinata - October 19, 2006 08:59 PM (GMT)
Oh. Im not that much of an expert on envy, but Iit just popped into my head.
But Ed does try to protect al, telling him not to use the stone. The whole reson hes out for the PS is to get Al first, then him back to normal, even though i hate ed.
Aly - October 19, 2006 09:03 PM (GMT)
hm...
yes havoc is sexy XD
Krazydog - October 19, 2006 09:13 PM (GMT)
Ahhh there's another reason why Ed is hated. He said he wouldn't use the Philosopher's stone when he had it. And what happened? It ended up in enemies hands. So all those deaths were for nothin'. He shoulda just used it rather then letting Dante get her mitts on it. What does he plan to do? Run away with the stone for the rest of his life? Ughh... Goes back to the. He doesn't use his genius when he needs to.
If anything, I think his popularity comes from his ever-so-cute *cough* yeah okay... *cough* Looks. I bet if he looked like Gluttony, he wouldnt be so loved.
Aly - October 19, 2006 09:25 PM (GMT)
o my......that gave my brain a weird image..... :blink:
"He said he wouldn't use the Philosopher's stone when he had it"
it was his brother that's why he didn't want to use it....people make mistakes--if you lived in my town, went to my school, and was in the 7th grade, you would walk by me every 10 minutes and within those minutes i had made a mistake xD
yes, his popularity is because of his looks and his abs and his cockyness *drools at him*
Dark King - October 20, 2006 02:57 AM (GMT)
My problem with Ed is this.
1. No respect
2. Does he not know trying to bring his mother back is pointless? He tried to mess with the life cycle. In my opinion, that was very foolish and ignorent.
3. Stubborn.
Envy deserved better. Envy sucked it up. Envy pwns Ed all the way.
Summoner Colette - October 20, 2006 03:09 PM (GMT)
To be fair, manga Ed kicks butt -nod-
Of course, anime Ed was the worst chatacter in the whole show. I liked DANTE more than him >.>
Aly - October 20, 2006 05:26 PM (GMT)
I thought dante was just a bitch. along with her dumb ******* husband 400 years ago. Feesh. that liar...
YES enough already I know manga Ed kicks butt i read uup to chapter 59--very Evil Edward. ^^
Anime Ed is just like me, kind of like Manga Ed... i know i've already said this a buhjillionguhmillion times but.... all those things everyone's been listin'... i've had this sudden thought
Are you all talking about me, or the pipsqueak in the corner?
? I don always respect people either ^^
| QUOTE |
| 2. Does he not know trying to bring his mother back is pointless? He tried to mess with the life cycle. In my opinion, that was very foolish and ignorent. |
..........Answer to that.... I would've tried the same thing
Stubborn! Ohh yeah! ha ha ha ha. the word stubborn is like my middle name ha ha ha.
ha ha ha never forget it lol xD someone said The pipsqueak was stubborn like the micro pipsqueak that's typin this out xD *laughs*
Dark General - October 20, 2006 06:57 PM (GMT)
Krazy did you just say Havok had a shotgun?...... Now i might read the manga, shotgun=mass destruction=what i like. I still feel the same way about Edward, i don't "hate him" I "dislike him".
And Havok was cool "Can't i get a smoke?" always make me laugh.
ouroboros fan - October 21, 2006 03:26 AM (GMT)
Wow........ Pretty indepth topic here. Well I guess ill get involved too. Im not Ed's biggest fan. Mostly due to the fact that he killed Greed and like Krazy said he treats the homunculi like ****. However he does provide a lot of comic relief and lets face it.......without him there would be no show. So i guess id be 50/50 there. What I cant believe though is that previous comment on Dante. You like HER more then ED!!!!!!! excluding Nina, Majahal, and Trisha........ although I think she may have had a hand in HER death. SHE IS RESPONSIBLE FOR PRETTY MUCH EVERY SINGLE LAST DEATH IN THE ENTIRE SHOW!!!!!!!!
Greed-Dante transmuted him allowing Ed to kill him in the first place
Gluttony-Turned him into an unfeeling monster because she was angry because he was showing a little too much Human compassion and grief for her likeing
Anybody the military killed-Lets face it she was pulling their strings the entire time. Any death caused by military hands you can most likely trace back to her
Envy-No she didnt kill him And I personally hate Envy. But After Hoenhiem left she encouraged that oh so all-consuming hatred of his
Marta-She made Pride Pride killed Marta
Lust-She probobly gave Wrath and Sloth orders to kill her in case she tried to betray them.
Hughes-Gave orders to kill anyone who found out too much
All the people in the underground city, that city that supposedly vanished in a single night, Ishbal-All her
SO I ASK AGAIN!!!!! HOW CAN YOU POSSIBLY PREFER HER OVER ED!!!!!
Aly - October 21, 2006 03:32 AM (GMT)
I hate dante... Ed pwnz all zones but havoc pwnz harder. yes Krazy or whoever said Dante was better than Ed, speak up.
Tyler Jorgensson - October 22, 2006 01:12 AM (GMT)
Well ENvy's just plain weird in my opinion. The story is mainly about ed and his brother so of course your gonna see everything about them their good and bad sides.
Ed does treat the hocumulus (sorry bad spelling too tired right now) horribly but they deserve it somewhat. How many lives did they ruin so they could get the Philosphers Stone for Dante?
ED is so the comic releif in the story. Him and mabye Major (Lieutenat Colonel) Armstrong.
Ed did ruin a few lives but in a way he saved a lot more. The whole town of lior would have become cannon fodder in the first place if edward didn't show what a fake Father Cornello was. Yeah it sorta went haywire in the end but oh well.
Sloth wanted to become a human so she was helping ed for a while (i think) and eventually all the hom. died cause they all fought against each other. Excet for mabye Pride who got owned my Mustang (again I think)
Yes he did make Sloth but he was trying to do the mpossible. I mean he and Al loved their mother and they wanted her back at any cost. They paid the price and got in this whole mess to begin with. They both wanted it.
I forgot everything everyone else said so i am gonna end it here
ouroboros fan - October 22, 2006 03:00 AM (GMT)
Ummmmmm............. First off I think your talkin about Lust NOT Sloth. second of all, yeah the homunculi ruined a lot of lives but that was because That was pretty much their only option. Remember that one episode where Slicer Brother the younger died? He made a big speech about why he killed himself. His speech applies to the homunculi. ok all homunculi start off as grotusque ugly immobile monsters that cant do anything except wait to die or let someone feed them red stones to give them shape. After that they have an obsession to become human. Their options are either to
A-Serve their master and hope to god that she will keep her word when she says she's gonna turn them human
B-defy their master and either die or get sealed away
C-somehow escape like Greed did and try to live normal lives. Although this option really doesnt work because they still will be hunted down and killed AND treated like monsters because of what they are. To quote Slicer 2 "You think we can go OUTSIDE!!!! Do you actually think theyll let us a couple of serial killers (or in this case homunculi) Roam freely?"
The homunculi arent really evil...... theyre trajic. Except for Envy because hes messed up in the head and Pride because from what ive seen he's a momma's boy.
They just try to find meaning for their existence and they kill people because to them thats the only way that they can find that meaning. And why do they think that? Simple........Dante.
Tyler Jorgensson - October 22, 2006 03:10 AM (GMT)
Okay I was talking about Lust there oops my fault
ouroboros fan - October 22, 2006 03:11 AM (GMT)
So you came to our site from over here eh Tyler?
Crystalbloodalchemist - October 22, 2006 04:46 PM (GMT)
I have to say this, I dont like Ed because he doesnt trust anyone and beleives nothing is true but the laws of alchemy, and he is extremely impulsive. (good to be home).
Aly - October 22, 2006 05:23 PM (GMT)
oh i've seen some trust..
I wonder what Vic would say if I gave him this topic.. he would flip. Vic = The voice actor for Edward Elric.
Sorry i'm ticked, Mornings don't go well for me!
Crystalbloodalchemist - October 22, 2006 05:29 PM (GMT)
Aly - October 22, 2006 05:31 PM (GMT)
No. I just have his e-mail.
Crystalbloodalchemist - October 22, 2006 05:35 PM (GMT)
oh, lol. Sorry, I stand by my post. I do not hate him, I just dislike him in afew episodes. :D
Dark General - October 23, 2006 01:41 PM (GMT)
I'm sure the VA for Edward wouldn't mind critism of the character he portrayed. Besides it would probley be a different opinion from what he is used to seeing. Plus we do make valid points. And like Crystal Blood said i'm not taking anything back.
(Sorry you are having a bad morning Aly)