Title: Sexuality
Skada_of_Alchemy - July 26, 2006 11:36 PM (GMT)
Sraight people, do you have a problem wiht homo/bisexual people?
What is your opinion on the different sexuality, like sraight, homosexual, bisexual, even transexual, pansexual and crossdressers.
I am bisexual, so please please, if you have a problem with bi's please say in in a poliet, civilized way
Summoner Colette - July 27, 2006 12:13 AM (GMT)
I have no problem with homosexual or bisexual people. I kinda like gay guys more than I do straight guys =/ Most I know are easier to hang out with and just plain fun to be around. I've never personally met a lesbian, so I can't have an opinion on them. I do know a bisexual girl and I don't find being with her awkward in the least.
I don't know any transexual people either, so no opinion there, though I don't have anything against it as of now. And I do not know what pansexual is *scared to google it D:*
Crossdressing, I'll admit, is kinda awkward.
So are you a boy or girl?
Skada_of_Alchemy - July 27, 2006 12:29 AM (GMT)
I'm a girl. Yeah, even though I am bi, I still feel a bit awkward around lesbians. And one of my best firneds is transexual, heh, if you met him, you'd think he was gay cause he is soo feminine.
Missy - July 27, 2006 12:54 AM (GMT)
i dont care really. i have some friends who are like that. as long as im not getting into any "situations" and they dont ask me anything i really dont care.
Dark General - July 27, 2006 12:55 AM (GMT)
Hmm let's see....
Homosexual men - Do whatever you do. I don't really care that's your own preferance and you have the right to do it....Just don't *coughs* try to flirt with me or you will end up with a fist to the face.....Nothing about me says "Gay".
Homosexual women - Same thing applies except the hitting part because naturally i don't hit girls and i don't like men..But don't flirt with my girl friend...it pisses me off.
Crossdressing men - *coughs* Well when i was living in queens in the morning time (like 6) i had to leave early to get to school. And some of the crossdressing prostitute guys tried to touch me on my shoulder as i walked past once i almost lost it and beat the sh*t out of him. I don't think i need to say much more about it....And i think it's disgusting. But again that's their preferance so they have that right to do what they want.
Transexuals - *coughs* Stay away from me. Again that's your own tight and preferance to do that. I think that it's sick to do that but that's just my opinion.
Those people are their own individuals and what they do is their bisness and not my concern. But once they cross that line where it's invadig my personal space then sometimes i have nasty, sure it might not be phsical violence at first just a blurt of something about get away from me. But when they intrude and go to far it practically calls for me to escalate the situation to another level......I geuss all in all, it's cool if you do it that's your bisness but don't intrude on my personal space or something of that nature.
Dread - July 27, 2006 01:13 AM (GMT)
Really don't care in genral. Transexuals scare me, though.
xGhostx - July 27, 2006 01:34 AM (GMT)
Honestly In my opinion I think things should stay as nature intended, But if you want to be that way ok, just don't bother me with it. I have no problem with homosexuals..and yeah transexuals are scary, its just creepy...>>
Krazydog - July 27, 2006 01:44 AM (GMT)
I have no problem with homosexuality or bisexuality. Its your life, so hey if you perfer the same sex, then its fine by me. I could really care less.
However, I dislike Yaoi displayed on characters that are OBVIOUSLY not gay. That pisses me off. shounen-ai and INTENTIONAL yaoi animes are fine, cuz they ARE made that way like gravitation etc. etc.
Besides, going into the art field of profession alot of Artists are out of the ordinary and many are homo/bi. So I'm getting use to it.
Crossdressing = Cant believe the world expects a certain dresscode. I Crossdress as a guy all the time, i dont care much.
xPanic - July 27, 2006 01:50 AM (GMT)
All of the above: I don't care what your preferance is as long as you keep it zipped up around me.
Dark General - July 27, 2006 02:05 AM (GMT)
You mean tomboyish Krazy....I don't have a problem with that as much as with the rest of the stuff. Just there is a line that shouldn't be crossed..... Such as walking down queens blvd in the morning on the way to the trian station and three,fat,cross dressing male prostitutes looks at you and you ignor them then one of them reachs out to touch your shoulder....I call that crossing the line.
Don't get me wrong i'm not saying anything about them because i don't know them personally or anything like that. But doing something like that or similar to it is crossing the line and is wrong.
Michiko - July 27, 2006 02:46 PM (GMT)
I'm a well-known tomboy...
Nope, no problem with homo or bisexuals. It's not only not my business, it's also just mean to make fun of someone just because they're different. (I have a lot of experience there, so I feel your pain)
As most of you all know, I'm straight, although I would not be adverse to try being bi if I had a reason to. I don't see a problem with it in the least.
What I really don't get is people who say that that threatens their own marriage or relationship. What, knowing there are other people out there who found a s/o? I mean, come on, people, stop being immature. And this isn't even recent - in Shakespeare's time, men were ENCOURAGED to sleep together, as were women, to protect virginity. You'd even have his characters referring to that, or two _very_ friendly males and females. This isn't recent, nor is it something cursed or evil or unnatural. It's <i>fine</i>; just as people are diverse, so too are their preferences in romance. I respect that fully.
As for anything in the Bible used as fuel for any argument against, you also might want to know that the thing was translated twenty times; it's lost a lot. One translation says it's wrong period - another, that an adult should not sleep with a boy.
Homosexuality has also been documented in creatures other than humans.
Now, let's see. Crossdressers? Know one. He wears a bikini, tutu, and a tiara, with a full beard. His name is Leslie. He runs for mayor every year so he can continue to live in a cardboard box off South Lamar. Nice guy, though... even if he is a little odd.
But that's another 'not my place to criticize'. I frankly keep ay opinion on that buried, although I will say some people canNOT pull it of, and ought not to try... ah, well. As long as it keeps them happy, and causes no harm to anyone, I don't se a real problem.
So no, I have no problem with it. To each their own, and for the best.
wrath27 - July 31, 2006 05:30 PM (GMT)
wrath27 - July 31, 2006 05:35 PM (GMT)
im sorry but i hate gay guys.they r always like:like oh,my god.he is like totally hot.
ewwwwwwwwwwww.
wrath27 - July 31, 2006 05:36 PM (GMT)
Zeek - July 31, 2006 09:35 PM (GMT)
As long as they dont try and make me gay im ok with them
Dark General - August 1, 2006 02:30 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Michiko @ Jul 27 2006, 10:46 AM) |
| What I really don't get is people who say that that threatens their own marriage or relationship. What, knowing there are other people out there who found a s/o? I mean, come on, people, stop being immature. |
It not that the people feel threatened. It's that if they clearly see you with your partner or whatever they still try to flirt with them and stuff. And even if they are alone and the other person politly say "I'm not like that." or say "Sorry i'm not into girls/guys like me" and then the other person dosn't stop then it becomes almost like they are trying to force someone. Put it like this. If you have a boyfriend and you are with him and another girl keeps on trying to flirt with him in front of your face wouldn't that bother you a little bit? Or if your boyfriend was somewhere by himself and he comes back and tells you that a girl kept on trying to flirt with him and say sexually explicit things wouldn't that bother you a little bit? Well it's the same feeling weather or not they are homosexual or heterosexual.
Michiko - August 3, 2006 01:27 PM (GMT)
But sir, there ARE those fundies who claim that 'gay marriage threatens to destroy the value of marriage itself'. They never protested when that crazy guy got married to his TV, but they certainly fight gay marriage. They DO claim it threatens them; that's the thing. I actually don't see the relevence of your argument, sir... Forgive me for insubordination, if that applies, but I know a couple of people who "swing that way", and none of them have ever pushed anything on me or anyone else. That's not what it's about - these are ordinary people oftentimes, not freaks who just want to make you squirm...
Dark General - August 4, 2006 12:44 AM (GMT)
Actually if homosexual people choose to get married it's more power to them. If they found happiness enough so they can get married then that's cool. I don't really have any problems with that. And if some people choose to protest gay marriag then hey that's their opinion and they have the right to do so. "Insubordination" *laughs* it's your opinion everyone is entitled to there own, and i don't like to argue about with people think,just explain why i think the way i do etc. I never catergorized ALL of them to be freaks like most people do, actually i never said that in any of comments. I said that in one particular incident if you choose to call it, it just so happens that a "Freak", "odd", "out of the ordinary" or whatever you choose to call him/her in fact did try to step over the line.
And i know that homosexual people are usually normal i'm not dumb and close minded but i'm talking about the ones that do cross the lines and won't let up.. And i've seen a couple of time homosexual people who do try to push themselfs on people after a person repeatidly tell them they arn't that way. Also different people different experiance not to mention we live in different places. I've met some of them that are cool people but i'm saying for those of them that do push it, it pisses me off alot. Hopefully that shed a little bit of light about what i meant.
Michiko - August 4, 2006 04:01 AM (GMT)
Yes it did, sir. ^^ I have only met one of those (My cousin, to boot! X_X)but I can easily see your point. It's not just when homosexuals do it, though - "straight" people who do it are just as bad. It's not a matter of orientation, then, it's a matter of disrecard of another person, and thus a respect issue more than a sexual-orientation one. That is what I think, anyways...
I just was worried that if I didn't phrase it correctly it may seem like I was insulting you or assuming you were close minded, as you said (which I know you are not!).. maybe I've been spending too much time around people who would instantly take it like that.
Dark General - August 4, 2006 05:30 AM (GMT)
That's good that i shed some light on how i felt. And yes that is exactly what i meant. It's the blantant disregaurd that you are with your girlfriend/boyfriend and then they try to keep on doing it that gets on my nerves.
Yeah how you phrased it the second time made it seem like you thought that i was close minded or was just acting childish about things... Actually i think you are right,i think have been hanging around people that would automatically take it like that. Because you even went as far as to talk about gay marriage like i was some type of person who believed that "gays are the devil's people.They are going to hell. It's wrong to do that" etc. Besides my first comments made it pretty obvious that i didn't really think they shouldn't do it. it's there bisness not mines to choose what they want to do with their lifes and their decisions.
SilentWanderer - September 5, 2006 02:29 PM (GMT)
I'm not going to say it's wrong or right. It's their business in what they want to do with their life. People can't go around judging others they don't even know.
Gays: If you're comfortable with yourself, go ahead do what you want to do.
Lesbians: Same as above. Just don't try to hit on me I find it kinda scary.
Transexuals: Well, if your happy with who you are and that's what you want go for it.
Crossdressers: Okay i'm going to speak the truth here you scare me very much. Like when a girl dresses somewhat like a guy i don't care but when a guy puts a dress on and walks around the city it scares me ALOT.
Buni - October 18, 2006 04:12 AM (GMT)
ok heres the deal.... i like gay's but i don't like lesbian's cause the lezbians hit on me and its creep adn i don't like it..... So i can understand if a guy doesn't like gays... SRRY IF THIS IS EFFENDING N E 1... but my personal oppinion is that its a free contry (well here in canada it is anyways) but i mean like serously... i have no problem with them as long as i'm not being "hit on" by the same sex.
Buni <3
Hinata - October 19, 2006 12:28 AM (GMT)
I cant stand gays or lesbians. It kinda disgraces the whole thing,gay guys act like girls and it makes me want to kill. The lesbos, they are cool people but the fact that they like the same sex is diturbing.
iam_legion - October 19, 2006 12:56 AM (GMT)
Wow, the maturity just flows out of this thread doesn't it.
Crystalbloodalchemist - October 22, 2006 05:24 PM (GMT)
I have no problem with homosexuals, whatever they want to do with their own time is none of my business. Bisexuals are... er ok, I dont realy care about them. Cross dressers on the otherhand are... strange to say the least. A girl dressing like a guy, thats easily a Tom-Boy, but when a guy does it its just plain weird.
Dark King - October 25, 2006 02:48 AM (GMT)
I have no problem with gay people and lesbian people. BUT I do have a problem with people who had a sex change. It's just plain creepy sometimes.
Avarice - October 29, 2006 02:40 AM (GMT)
gay, bi, sexchanges: i don't want to see it. i don't want to hear it. people can do whatever they want but i don't approve of it nor see it. if someone wants to do that whatever, thats their business.
Tyler Jorgensson - October 29, 2006 03:50 AM (GMT)
Im a male to start
Gays: fine by me jsut don't try and hit on me or i'll kick your butt
Lesbians: Be my guest do what ever you want. I got a few female family members who are, along with a few people i know at school. Just for the record though "Everyone loves lesbians"
Transexuals: don't come near me
Bi females: just don't ask me to go with you and another guy at once or i will kill you
bi men: umm messed up seriously
my two cents
OD-gill - November 12, 2006 02:55 PM (GMT)
Lets see then
Straight: No problem, this is the norm [or as norm as can be]
Gay: No problems with them, i know alot of gay guys and they are really good friends.
Lesbien: again i know quite a few, and they too are really good.
Bi: This is where i come in, not quite straight, but not gay, ill agree some bisexuals can be a little flirty, but most are good people and will respect whatever sexuality is yours.
Crossdressers: If a peson can choose thier clothes, whats to stop them from wearing the opposite sexs clothes? women wear mens clothes, whey not the other way around? its a free choice and they may do as they wish.
Transexuals: I dont know any but still, they have their choice, if we can choose our clothes, religion and even the structure of our bodys why not our gender?
Thats all from me.
Seven Cardinal Sins - November 17, 2006 03:01 AM (GMT)
Alright, I'm a straight boy just so you people know. Here's my opinion.
Homosexuals: Go ahead, I don't care if you like the same gender. (As long as gays don't hit on me I'm OK with it) People can do what they wanna do, and it just seems really retarded to me when people go and discriminate someone about homosexuals simply out of religion. I am an atheist and I honestly just find it ridiculous.
Bisexuals: Same as above.
Transexuals: I actually respect transexuals because they're brave enough to change their gender to what they want it to be. They actually go outdoors unafraid of what the world says about them.
Crossdressers: ...this I find odd.
Xorital - December 22, 2006 09:57 PM (GMT)
im a male (in case you couldnt tell) i dont mind about anyones preference, i dunno what a transexual is but their people too so yea, though i really hate bush for trying to ban gay marriages they deserve rights just like us, kinda ticks me off...alot, i may be stright but i belive in their rights.
Hinata - December 22, 2006 11:35 PM (GMT)
Im guessing you are a homosexual? You might think its all nice when to guys kiss, their just people right? Well, gay people dont usually just kiss, its disgusting things like gay-sex and what not. Its disgraceful, your not getting anything out of being gay but freeekin pleasure.
Oh yeah! Im a guy, I have to use my sistas account mine went corrupt or somethin.
Xorital - December 23, 2006 04:44 PM (GMT)
didnt you read my post im not gay, and stright people have sex too dumbass
xGhostx - December 24, 2006 01:34 AM (GMT)
I don't have a problem with peoples sexual lifestyle as long as they are aware I am not apart of it, and respect that. Even with that said, I do believe Gay Marrage should be restricted.. At least out of the Church. Sure, God loves everyone but im prettyyy d*** sure it says being gay is against god. So, the least people could do is marry legaly, not religously.
Or, you know... Maybe make another Sect? I wouldn't care.. but, I can understand how people can get upset if people are ignoring where the church stands, and getting married through it anyway. But, then again.. it doesnt necissarily effect them. so, yeah.. idk.
Its a complicated subject..everyone feels differently, my dads personal opinion is They wouldn't care about marrage if it didn't have the financial benefits as opposed to two single people whom live together.. If they took that away, they would let it go.
But, im not so sure about that either..b/c Marrage is symbolic.. and, that may be the biggest reason why its so contriversial.. Symbolicy of a man and a woman..Not two of either... As I said, its a complicated subject.
Hinata - December 25, 2006 11:17 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Xorital @ Dec 22 2006, 03:57 PM) |
| im a male (in case you couldnt tell) i dont mind about anyones preference, i dunno what a transexual is but their people too so yea, though i really hate bush for trying to ban gay marriages they deserve rights just like us, kinda ticks me off...alot, i may be stright but i belive in their rights. |
Oh, sorry I missed that, lol. But I guess as long as they leave me out of it Im fine.
Im just saying Homosexual intercourse isnt the best way to go, and straight intercourse has more of a purpose and reason, maybe I could have stated that better. But oh well, my opinion, or anyone elses, wont change whats going on in the world.
Michiko - December 28, 2006 02:13 AM (GMT)
Myth, I may be able to refute that. Translations of the Bible have been... many, and things get lost in translation. In fact, how can we really know what it said originally? In the Orthodox Greek, or one of them, it said it was wrong for an adult male to sleep with a boy. So it was not condemning being gay, but merely being pedophiliac.
My next point is this. In mideival times, religion was everything, was it not? The Church ruled more supremely than the Crown ever could, and what a tactic it used! However, we have records that clearly indicate that bedfellows were common - in fact, Shakespeare took this as de facto for his plays.
To protect virginity, members of the same sex were encouraged to hook up. It's hard to keep this sort of thing from happening, so it was redirected in what was considered a less harmful manner.
The counter argument would probably run that the priests kept the masses ignorant, but! Would they allow this if it were a greater sin against God than premarital sex? Or would they call out the cuprits, brand them heretics and unclean and everything else they could possibly label them and have them die in nasty, graphic, warning-label-style ways?
They ruled with fear of God. This was entirely in their power.
The fear of homosexuality is rather recent, actually. You cannot tell me that it was around back then; it wouldn't be in record, and accepted, were that the case. We would have recorded instances of these, ah, cleansings, for the Church did nothing if they did not record obsessively.
There are no such records, which leads me to wonder, naturally, just when that mistranslation was made, either for or against homosexuality, for it could run either way. Perhaps it was changed, and then reverted - how could we know?
My next step would be to look in the Koran... if I go that far.
Xorital - December 28, 2006 09:22 PM (GMT)
Back then christians did lots of horrible things (like kill muslims for no reason but thats off topic)