Carly and the band have mentioned several times that they very much want to include the fans in their band. That "We Are The Fallen" is a statement that can be made not only by the band, but by the fans as well:

So let's discuss. Do you embrace the concept? How do you feel the statement fits you? Does it inspire you?

Okay, I'll go first... :rotfl:

I loved the idea of the concept of the fallen right away. I think it fits Carly's journey absolutely and it seems like it fits for the guys as well.

I have been thinking about this a lot and I actually am feeling quite inspired by the name.

For me, We Are The Fallen, speaks not of failure, but of rising from adversity. Everyone falls, everyone has flaws and failures and struggles. As terrible, painful, as those moments in our lives are, they are also when we grow the most. They show us what we are made of and they make us who we are.

As much as I hate hate HATE going through those tough times, I also know how important they are and how they shape me. When I've been on the floor feeling like I can't go on, I certainly didn't say "oh this is a great learning experience." But, looking back, I see the value of those moments. Funny, in some ways they are freeing. You are stripped down to your core and the things that really matter come to light. While I'm not sure I can say I am grateful for the really awful times I've been through, I can say I value them.

So, I am proud so say I am the fallen. It doesn't mean I am a failure. It means I am human. I am not perfect, I am flawed. But I am me. And I am full of dark and light. I had to fall so I could rise.

How can anyone truly appreciate success if they have never failed? How can we know happiness if we have never known sorrow?

I am the fallen. No matter where I go, what I do, I always will be. I will also be the opposite, the phoenix rising from the ashes, like yin and yang. As Ani DiFranco (yes I'm flying that lesbian flag...) says "I am 32 flavors and then some"

I love the name, because I am not alone. We have come together because we are celebrating our humanity through music. We embrace our weaknesses and our strengths and each others and stand together through the endless cycle of rising and falling.

cheryl, i completely agree with what you said. i think it is very inspiring. as humans, its our nature to fall. we are fallen people, and we will never be perfect no matter how hard we try. but WE are the fallen. we fall together and we help each other back up. we do it together, and that's the only way we can do it. and we do have that freedom-- the freedom to be exposed and broken, and we dont have to try and hide ourselves to please anybody.

i am the fallen.... WE are the fallen.

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Wow Cheryl... you are such a poetic writer w o w !! I could never express myself in words that way. What you wrote is so true and hit home bigtime for me and it actually brought tears to my eyes. I hope Carly reads this soon.

We are the Fallen Angels :-)

Amy,
beautifully said, and so true... :grouphug:

I love the band "We Are The Fallen"! I am a proud member. No, I am not a member of the band, but I am a member of the the literal fallen. I have been oh so very high with life and I have been oh so very low with life. My generation is the generation that wants to be heard. As I said, "We Are The Fallen" is not only a band, (that is AMAZING! Go Carly!!) but it is also us. All of us. We are the fallen generation. Look all around you. Jump on board now or forever hold your peace.


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nice posts itt.... i totally agree!

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I told Carly about this amazing post that Cheryl wrote and found out last night that she loved it so much that she emailed to everyone in the band!!

Her Tweet to me was " Hey I totally read it already . It's fuckin stunning . I emailed it to all the band . It defines exactly what this band name represents !"

Way to go Cheryl!! You need to make this a blog and everyone should do the same. Getting people who have followed her this whole year to share in this experience is amazing!!

Thank You Cheryl for that great default pic you made for our Myspace Pages. I will make it mine too!

We Are The Fallen Angels Movement is in full swing!!!

xx Ro

Wow. That honestly made me incredibly emotional, Cheryl. I don't think this whole concept could be explained more perfectly, therefore I'm not going to say anything else other than I agree with you entirely. :heart:

They're not called "I am the fallen" They're called "We Are The Fallen" because like Koosh said, we are all in this together, nobody could make it in this world without the help of others, not one person in this entire world can do it alone. When you fall, there is always someone there to help you get back on your feet again. We may not be a part of the band physically, but we have all put so much support, love and let's not forget to mention all the hard work all of us have put into helping the band grow. So when people out there want to tear them down we will be there to pick them up and get them going again, because they are not alone. We are one, We are the fallen. And this inspires me to help others as much as I can.

I can't add anything that hasn't already been so well said, I just wanted to say, Cheryl, that was one of the best posts I've read here (and I think I've read every one).
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[QUOTE=Cheryl,Jun 25 2009, 11:20 AM]

Smithson: Freedom. Every since we all came into this band, we feel so free to go and be who we are. I embrace that. [/QUOTE]

So let's discuss. Do you embrace the concept? How do you feel the statement fits you? Does it inspire you?[/QUOTE]

THIS IS HOW I THINK IT FITS ME!
I remember when my daughter started going to concerts about 5 or 6 years ago, and thinking Aww to be young again!

Then it came time to go to the Idol concert with my daughter.

The way she had talked about going to the buses, sounded pretty cool,
But kind of uncomfortable too,
because I thought "I'm too old for this"
But after the shows last summer, and meeting Carly, those feelings have turned into the
"freedom to do what I want to do and
the freedom to feel comfortable no matter what my age is."

Now when I ask people if they have been to any concerts lately, and they say:
"Oh No, I am to old to go to concerts" (with the sadness in their voice)
I just say to them, Well you haven't been to a concert lately? Have you?

Cheryl- awesome post. Ur amazing, as we all know :)

For me, not only does 'we are the fallen' have significant meaning, but so does the song 'Bury Me Alive'. This song and its lyrics really hit close to home with me.

i was engaged briefly to my best friend in the entire world. unfortunately he came from a terrible home life, one filled with all forms of abuse. it shouldn't have affected our relationship, but it did. after 2 years of friendship and 2 years of an intense but amazing relationship, things did not end well. he depended his whole life's happiness on me and i wasn't strong enough to be put up on that kind of pedestel. his sadness, depression and suicidal behavior rubbed off on me. i constantly was picking him up, attempting to save him. but loving him wasn't enough. unfortunately he wasn't able to pull himself out of his own misery; he came from too much poverty, too much abuse- he turned to all kinds of drugs, alcohol and gave up on trying to turn his life into something worth living. And he dragged me right down with him.

There's no use in crying, all my tears won't drown my pain
Free me from your sorrow, I can't grieve you again
I watched you let yourself die, and now it's to late to save you this time

You bury me alive, and everybody's got to breathe
Some how don't leave me to die
To consume your emptiness and lies

All I did was love you, now I hate the nightmare youve become
I can't let you fool me, I won't need you again
I watched you let yourself die, and now it's to late to save you this time

You bury me alive, and everybody's got to breathe
Some how don't leave me to die
To consume your emptiness and lies

You bury me alive, and everybody's got to breathe
Some how don't leave me to die
To consume your emptiness and lies

I can't feel this love we used to hold, all I see is black and cold
As I try to pull you down to the ground, the ground

Everybody's gotta breathe some how, don't leave me to die
To consume your emptiness and lies
You bury me alive, and everybody's got to breathe
Some how don't leave me to die
To consume your emptiness and lies

You bury me alive, and everybodys got to breathe
Some how don't leave me to die
To consume your emptiness and lies

this song feels like it was written at the time of the end my relationship, like it came from the inside of my own personal hell. obviously i was so excited for this single, as we all were, when i first listened to it monday, i froze. then i cried. and it's all ive listened to since.

despite all this, 'we are the fallen', everyone is right, that's not just a band name. it's a true statement. at some point in everyone's life they will fall, and more than once, it's envitable. for me i hit rock bottom for the first time at the end of this relationship. and when you're at rock bottom, there really doesn't seem like there's any hope of getting back up. i had been swallowed up in complete darkness. yet i learned to dig myself out, because i had to. when your in darkness long enough, your eyes begin to adjust and you realize you're not the only one there. many are in the same place you are. and once you realize you are not alone, together you can slowly start to see the light again. 'we are the fallen'. fall together. rise together.
i haven't completely healed; i can see the light now, but it's still dim. but i least i can see it and each day it gets a little brighter, and i get a little stronger. and the next time i do fall and hit rock bottom, ill be a little tougher, because of the ones who stood by my side the first time i fell.

WE ARE THE FALLEN

...that's worth living life by in my book

you guys, these are so great. Keep them coming!!!! I want to see a post from everyone!!!!

OMG soooo true

Okay, I'll give it a try. I'm not good with poetic stuff and I really haven't had too many bad experiences in my life that I can relate to this concept. But I do love the idea of them calling it "we are the fallen" cuz it includes them and their fans on this journey. And we all know how tough it's been for Carly in her music career and we've stuck by her and now it's finally paid off. We'll be there to support this band thru their ups and downs and I love the sense of family we all have as fans both with eachother and with the band. This is gonna be one amazing journey and I'm ready for it!!! :heart:

I agree that the name We Are The fallen is a perfect name and meaning behind it.

My shit's just a little to personal to put on a forum on the web,but know yes I've fallen and fallen hard on many occasions.

Simple matter of getting back up,dusting yourself off,dealing with what happened,letting go and moving forward.Because life doen't stop just because something bad happened,it does and will go on.

I personally can't word the meaning behind we are the fallen any better then you guys! You all took the words right out of my mouth! But I will give this a shot anyways, although it's not going to sound any different. :P

oh and i am the fallen... as we are the fallen. it brings a new meaning to the industry and a pretty freakin' good one at that. The way the world is today, most are afraid to let the world see their flaws or voice how they feel and who they are because the judgements can be so harsh and devastating. And I can honestly say I've never been around such a diverse group of people who are not afraid to voice who they are as a human being and that includes Carly. Even with some of our most fallen moments, we still stay true to who we are, we get back up on our feet and we continue to go after what we want. We've all personally done it and most of us have shared that with each other and it sets a great example for outsiders to see it's ok to be different and to be who you are and to chase after your dreams even when it brings you down to your most vulnerable moments. It shows us that we really can do this, we really can reach out and get back up even if it means falling again.

and i am very proud to say i am the fallen... that WE are the fallen.

Wow Ashley - I am so sorry you had to go through this as I too have been in love with someone just like that and after 5 years and a lot of pain, it ended. We were about to be married in 2001 and after 5 years of being his crutch a few months b4 the wedding it ended. It was an awful time for me and so dark indeed. But we all must pick ourselves up and realize that we come into people's life sometimes for a reason to help them maybe or in some way it helps us. I learned that I cant fix people. i can only support and love the best way I can. When a relationship becomes toxic whether its a lover or a friend there are times you need to walk away to save yourself.

Thank you so much for opening up your soul for all of us to see.

Love ya - xx Ro

Thank you

xxx

Ok, I'll try, but I'm no writer/poet/whatever

'We are the fallen'. It's the first word in that phrase that means so much. The inclusive personal pronoun, the fact that that one single word shows us that we are not alone. No matter what happens, no matter how much you think that there is no-one else in the world going through what you are going through, no-one else in the world who feels like tomorrow cannot bring happiness, that the hard times will not end or that life will not get better, we no longer have to feel isolated and alone. I can't pretend to have gone through anything like what some of you have, I haven't lived enough yet, but I've had my fair share of personal heartache, and it's good to know I'm not alone.

cheryl your comments were so inciteful and i'd have to agree with you, carly was amazing on idol and i knew it wouldn't be the end but just the beginning, comparisons to evanessence are not on though cos each are a band in there own right and people should take we are the fallen for themselves and not compare them to others xx :P